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    "So youre saying no one can say what is a right or isnt. "

    That's exactly what I saying. It's all relative and always changing.

    There was no idea right to free speech throughout most of history. It was only with the emergence of liberalism a few hundred years ago that it became acceptable.

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    • yes rights are man made. rule is survival of fittest. i know that i skipped over that thinkign we were talking in context of modern society
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    • that was the context in which i asked the question of blue and made my statement on greece edu comment
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    • and if the context your talkign about is applied to the greece edu, then there isnt such thigns as rights so they would be wrong
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    • wrong for declaring such things. just a lot of whining and blah blah
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    • I think you misunderstood. I'm not saying the lack of any natural rights means we shouldn't have any.
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    • People as a society should figure that out for themselves.
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    • One thing that is worth mentioning is that in the UK, for instance, these policies really don't have much support
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    • The conservatives only got 35% of the vote in the last election
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    • They formed a coalition with the Liberals, but the Libs had run their whole campaign saying they opposed raising student fees
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    • fees. Then when they got into government they suddenly reversed.
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    • and how would one claim edu as a natural right? yea i probably am missing what your saying
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    • So it is the elites forcing the policies on people whether they want them or not
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    • yea fuck the UK gov. most governments in general. they have forgotten there places
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    • There's no natural rights, but people should be able to decide these things and not a few people in government
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    • but natural rights are fundamental for a proper modern society. if not its jsut obligarchy
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    • I just can't really go along with the "natural" part...that seems to imply God came down from heaven and made the decision
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    • Yes, we need rights, but we can decide what they are
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