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- locustsloth0
It's funny, deathboy, that you argue for capitalism in it's "ideal" state, ignoring all human factors involved when you tout it, but denegrate socialism FOR the human factors involved, rather than what it should be like at it's ideal.
Neither of these will ever be seen in a vacuum, and should not be regarded as such. Some people in a capitalist society will always use the system to accrue as much wealth as they possibly can, regardless of the consequences to other. Some people in a socialist soceity will ride on the hard work of others or attempt to guide the communal society for their own benefit.
So the difference is the intent behind the ideal of each of these systems. Capitalism focuses on individuals and corporations either making it or failing. This success is measured in growth and share in the marketplace, requiring that companies increase their profits continually. In essence, greed; getting as much as you can.
Socialism, in it's ideal, is treating the whole of a society as an organism, one that depends on all segments to work for the benefit and survival of a whole. And it's absolutely true that the ability to gain wealth is stifled in this model, but that's looking at going from a capitalist society to a socialist society, and thatt is quite a leap.But think f it this way. Think of society as your body. Would you allow your arms to get infinately stronger at the cost of neglecting your legs? Would you allow your pinky fingers to atrophy and fall off so you could save the blood that flows to them for appendages that are deemed more productive?
So again, no system will ever operate in it's ideal state. But the message to it's citizens dictates where that society goes and how it grows. If the US moved to a socialist state, yes, there would be upheaveal and EVERYONE's lives would change,. But i believe (naively, perhaps) that we need to set a course in that direction, as it's the only way, socially, that we can survive as a people.
- He's a fucking moron. Stop arguing with him. He can't even master grammarTheBlueOne
- He doesn't even understand the difference between systems of ownership and systems of distribution.TheBlueOne
- Like most internet educated libertarian idiots. Nor do they understand scale or externalities.TheBlueOne
- im not arguing for it, im just stating what it is. anticapitalism is propaganda to promote collectivism. and in most cases capitalism has nothign to do with it********
- capitalism has nothing to do with it. just like the home fiasco.********
- an ideal socialist type setting i think would be like in huxleys island.********