Ban the Burqa?

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    Facts from Muslims:

    1) The niqab is the face-veil called the Niqab, no the Burqa
    So the Niqab is being banned.

    2) Burqa - full body covering (not being banned)

    3) Hijab - head covering or headscarf, this is NOT the niqab or face-veil and is what majority of Muslim women wear.

    4) Less than 10% of Muslim women wear the Niqab or face-veil.

    5) There is no mandate from primary texts (Qur'an and Hadith) for the wearing of the face-veil, But the headscarf (hijab) is mandatory.
    Wearing the niqab is optional and only encouraged by scholars, not an Islamic obligation.

    France and other countries that ban the face-veil or other items of clothing are discriminating and is a violation of personal human rights. We should be allowed to wear whatever we want.

    If a woman can wear a bikini in the middle of the street, then why can't a woman choose to cover.

    A) The notion that women are coerced is false and not quantifiable, it is almost impossible to determine how many women are forced to wear the veil. And since the number is less than 5% in most western countries, it is ridiculously small. More domestic abuse occurs than forced veiling anywhere.

    B) The security argument is totaly false, currently all Niqab-wearing women have to show their faces to security, on ID cards, passports etc. So this argument is baseless.

    C) The notion that society needs to see the face is again totally baseless. Most people communicate daily via email and phone with people they have never ever met, yet they do business perfectly fine. It is simply discriminatory to

    D)

    Banning the veil or other religious (or non-religious) items of clothing and rights will push people underground or away.

    Don't even bother to imply that people 'should go back to their country' or 'if you want to live in France/Europe, you have to...' is at times racist and ignorant. As many of the Muslims in the west are actually western themselves. Born or ethnically white-Caucasian, first, second and third generation Muslims. Even if a Muslim is first generation born Moroccan in France, they are still French and nobody can ask them to 'go back to their country'.

    Saudi Arabia: "But in Saudi Arabia they force women to wear veils and a dress code"
    Who ever said that was right? Yes, SA are wrong to force people to do anything, in Islam, God says 'There is no compulsion in Islam' - so technically it is un-Islamic to force people to do something they don't. Free-will is a (God-given) blessing. SA has a minority of Muslims, who are not the majority and interpret the faith in very literal and conservative manners.

    Iran: Again, the same as SA, they are not right in imposing state-directed laws on dress or faith.

    Why not visit Morocco, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Malaysia or Dubai to see the diversity in faith and custom? Why pick the two most intolerant countries, as if they represent 'Islam' or 'Muslims' - when they are a minority. The comparison is flawed. Most Muslim-majority countries do not impose restrictions on dress by law.

    Finally, funny how male politicians in Europe are telling women how to dress! Welcome to the 21st century.

    I hope at least Britain has the sense to keep our basic human right to wear what we want.

    • *correct: The face veil is called 'Niqab', not the burqa.MakeBelieve

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