Ban the Burqa?

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    christians in china used to be killed. due to their vilification they were ofter granted entry into countries like the usa. wordwide people frowned down their noses at the situation where a person wearing a cross around their neck getting 20 years in prison. at the very least being told you couldn't wear a cross was considered heinous civil rights abuse. although it was china so nobody was surprised.

    america was founded by people escaping persecution for their beliefs. and they wore fucking stupid hats and the women had to wear bonnets and dresses. gingham probably. they didn't give much of a fuck about the locals culture, although they did add smallpox infused blankets into the mix so maybe that's still held on to?

    the niqab, or burqa or hijab aren't attacking other countries cultures. these people aren't secluding themselves away in compounds, not learning the local language and plotting our downfall. they are simply living here with different views and socio-religious expressions.

    it's worth discussing and if the majority feels that seeing someones face is paramount then so be it.

    but are our so-called 'cultural' beliefs actually that important to us? all of them? really? what designates a places culture evolves. it takes bits in and takes bits out. shit, around 12% of australians actually go to church yet we call ourselves a christian nation but only because that's the version of a 'creator' we were taught and kinda believe in but not really. yet our not-really-believed belief is enough to get the shits with someone else who ears something they do believe in.

    the main issue i feel with this is that so much of it is based on opinion and not fact.

    it's oppressing women - really? do they feel that way? if they do then shit, let's stop it but shouldn't it come from their mouths? i think arranged marriage is nuts and oppressive yet that's still common practice in some cultures. it's not for me to say as it's got nothing to do with me. it's a tad arrogant to measure the world by your own standards with everything. especially a persons religion. unless it's scientology in which case fuck 'em.

    referencing taliban insanity when talking about the muslim religion is completely nuts. and ignorant. find the most hardline right-wing baptist kkk 'christian' and make him more myopic and small minded and you come slightly close to what the taliban are in relation to the muslim faith. they are fucking insane to the point that even moderate muslims are now calling for them to be killed thanks to the bombing the other week.

    all in all though i like that we discuss shit here.

    • aren't plotting our downfall? the majority aren't, but to say none are is disingenuous.Amicus
    • yeah point. although the ones plotting wouldn't wear a burqa as it'd give them away.airey
    • not necessarily...Amicus

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