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PonyBoy - sorry if my tone was a bit combative. Emoticon away my friend.
I was working in a building for ten years with a company here in NY that was all Mexican - all legal as far as I know, but I didn't ask for papers. The owner of the company, also from Mexico originally 30 odd years ago but also a US Citizen now, was an interesting guy to talk to. He was certainly biased against the current wave of Mexicans coming up, at least to the NY area. Lots of Mexicans, (many illegal) up here in the NYC suburbs (not in NYC itself) as they all come up to work for the landscapers who manage the properties of the Wall Street dickheads in Greenwich and Westchester. Trust me, these hedgefund guys are keeping the supply of illegals going fine and dandy up in this corner of the country. Although I know the problem in the west is of a different magnitude with different social contexts as well. But there's plenty of infiltration of Mexican gang violence and drug trade up here too.
That said, some of the hardest working people I know have been these illegals. Shit, they're working harder and for less money than anyone else I can think of. And wit them having kids being born here - well now you have family issues. I personally don't have much of a problem with the US gaining hardworking, family oriented people as citizens, no matter if they crossed the border illegally or not. Find a way to make the good ones stay if they want. If they don't want to stay, then drop them off on the other side of the border. (I know, simplistic...venting..but you get my point I hope)
There needs to be some major overhaul of how we let people come into this country and how we treat them, but creating a police state ain't it by a long shot. And this is deeply tied into the US drug policy, the role of US military advisors in Mexico, etc. bc this is bringing not just illegal migrant workers here, but also bringing drug violence into it. It's only going to get worse unless we have a major restructuring of our drug policy. But this draconian law will hurt the hardworking poor illegal worker and not the drug traffickers. Fuck, I'll be they'll corrupt/intimidate the local police forces in the US just like they do in Mexico.