Richard Dawkins: I will arrest Pope Benedict XVI

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    I am posting this from another threat because I believe some of you should read more and depend on your public school education less.

    by Maddogkull]
    Thanks to Tentickles great thread I was starting to think what Tentickles was trying to tell us about 2012.

    Then I saw this in Tenktickles thread.
    “ In 1139, Saint Malachi experienced a vision of the future. He saw 112 different popes and gave them all cryptic mottos. These mottos described the popes in order. Each motto has been associated with each numbered Pope. The mottos are usually related to places of birth, their coat of arms or their pontificates. The current pope is Pope Benedict XVI; he is the 111th pope on the list. His motto read, “Gloria Olivae” meaning glory of the olive. Pope Benedict XVI promotes peace and the symbol of peace is an olive branch.”

    After I saw that it made me wonder. If Saint Malachi actually did predict this with such preciseness, maybe some of the bible predictions might be real. Was it coincidence that he predicted glory of the olive, and that Pope Benedict XVI promotes peace and the symbol of peace is an olive branch??? To me that just seems to strikingly similar. Does anyone agree with me on that?

    Prophecy of Popes:

    Pope Benedict XV (Religio depopulata)
    The motto means "religion laid waste". During Pope Benedict XV's reign, three significant events occurred:
    • World War I, which killed 20 million people in Europe,
    • Spanish flu, the 1918 flu pandemic which killed 50-100 million people worldwide
    • the October Revolution in Russia, which established the atheist Soviet Union.

    Pope Pius XI (Fides intrepida)
    The motto means "intrepid faith". This pope released the encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge which condemned Nazi racism and also signed agreements with Fascist Italy which, among other things, gave the Vatican sovereignty, established the pope as head of state, and added 700 million lire to the church coffers.

    Pope Pius XII (Pastor angelicus)

    The motto means "angelic shepherd". This pope was known to be very mystical, and it was believed that he received visions. His writings added greatly to understanding of Catholic beliefs and church doctrine. During his reign, Pius exercised Papal Infallibility in defining dogma when he issued, on November 1, 1950 an apostolic constitution, Munificentissimus Deus, which defines ex cathedra the dogma of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary into heaven, on the request of the heavenly father. He was declared Venerable in 2000.

    Pope John XXIII (Pastor et nauta)

    "Pastor et nauta" translates to "shepherd and sailor". Prior to his election he was patriarch of Venice, which is a maritime city, famous for its waterways and gondolas.
    According to Peter Bander in The Prophecies of Malachy, during the conclave which was to elect John XXIII, Cardinal Spellman, evidently having taken Malachy's forecast that the next pope would be "pastor and mariner" literally, rented a boat, filled it with sheep and sailed up and down the Tiber.
    The anti-pope Pius XIII of the True Catholic Church has also claimed to be "Pastor et nauta", as their group believes that his last valid predecessor was Pius XII. He has used justifications including his residence in the United States, which is across the Atlantic Ocean from Rome.

    Pope Paul VI (Flos florum)

    Pope Paul VI, is described in the prophecies as "flos florum" or "flower of flowers". His personal arms bore three fleurs-de-lis, the heraldic charge best known as that in the arms of the French monarchy. Fleur-de-lis literally means "flower of the lily": yet the medieval flower par excellence was the rose, not the lily; and many popes have borne various flowers in their arms.
    The fleur-de-lys has the meaning of purity and chastity in Catholic religion. This is based upon scripture. Paul VI published his encyclical Humanae Vitae subtitled On Human Life, on July 25, 1968. In this encyclical he reaffirmed the Catholic Church's traditional condemnation of artificial birth control.

    Pope John Paul I (De medietate lunae)

    "De medietate lunae" translates to "from the midst of the moon" or "from the half moon". It has also been interpreted as "De media aetate lunae", meaning "of the middle age of the moon".
    • Albino Luciani, who later became Pope John Paul I, was born in Canale d'Agordo, diocese of Belluno, which name is similar to bella luna or beautiful moon.
    • He was elected on August 26, 1978, the day after the moon reached its last quarter, and reigned for 33 days, approximately five days longer than a lunar cycle. He died the day before the new moon.
    • However, a much simpler explanation might be that he was born on the day of the half moon: on October 17, 1912, the moon was in its first quarter.
    • Others point to his name before becoming pope, Albino Luciani. Albino is related to "albus", white, and "Luciani", derived from "Lucius", is ultimately related to the Latin word lux "light", whence "white light". Still others have linked "half-moon" to the smile often exhibited by John Paul I, who is remembered by many as the "smiling Pope."

    Pope John Paul II (De labore solis)

    The prophetic motto corresponding to Pope John Paul II is "De labore solis", which literally means "Of the labor (work/giving birth) of the sun"; but "labor solis" is a common Latin expression that means a solar eclipse.
    There are a variety of explanations that have been given to explain the motto:
    • Karol Jozef Wojtyła, who later became Pope John Paul II, was born on 18 May 1920, the day of a partial solar eclipse over the Indian Ocean, and buried on 8 April 2005, the day of a rare hybrid eclipse over the south-western Pacific and South America.
    • During World War II, Karol Wojtyła worked in a quarry, "laboring in the sunlight".
    • It might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the "Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring" in the Book of Revelation 12, because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary, to whose intercession he credited surviving an assassination attempt early in his papacy.
    • Also, he affirmed the importance of the reported messages of the Virgin Mary at Fatima, which had as its confirming event, the strange "solar miracle" or "sun spinning in the sky" event, reported in the secular media in 1917.
    • It has also been suggested that the associated Latin phrase could also be an anagram for "de borealis sol" (correct Latin: de boreali sol) or "a Sun from the North", being a luminary coming from Poland which is north of Rome.
    • Another interpretation points simply to the sun rising in the east and his being the first Pope from Eastern Europe.
    • A further theory is that the combination of "labore" and "solis" cryptically refers to "the sun of the workers", i.e., "the star of communism", with John Paul being the only pope to have spent much of his life under a communist regime.
    • Yet another theory exists among some traditionalist Catholics, who believe that the motto translates as "Eclipse of the Sun". These Catholics view the Second Vatican Council as a fundamental departure of the Catholic faith. and that the differences between the church before and after the council are stark enough to regard the contemporary official Catholic Church as a new modernist church and not truly Catholic. The sun is so interpreted as the true Catholic faith, which has been eclipsed by the heterodoxy of the council teachings. They identify this time period as the Great Apostasy, that has been predicted for the End of Times.
    • Solidarity, the Polish labor movement that despised Communism, might be seen as a connection to "Labor of the Sun."
    • John Paul II introduced the Luminous Mysteries to the Rosary.
    • During his pontificate, John Paul II traveled extensively all around the world, more than any other pope before, and similarly to what the sun does daily, from an earth-centric point of view.
    • Nicolaus Copernicus, who was the first astronomer to formulate a comprehensive heliocentric cosmology, spent his youth in Kraków, Poland. The heliocentric model of the universe was described as heretical by Catholic Church during the early 1600s, when the Copernican system was espoused by Galileo Galilei. This position was reversed in 1992 by Pope John Paul II, who also spent his youth in Kraków, Poland, in his apology to Galileo, 450 years after Copernicus published De revolutionibus and 360 years after Galileo's trial. Thus, the "Toil of the Sun" may have referenced the Church's acceptance of heliocentricity.

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