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    Thanks Buddahhat, I'm actually asking about the cost of healthcare not insurance coverage. What's in this bill that that, as ukit puts it, 'solves the problem of rising healthcare costs through government action or a change in regulations'? Anything to keep pharma costs down? Keep doctors from providing more costly procedures simply because they get paid more, i.e. insurance pay structure issues? Tort reform? I'm just wondering if any of the actual problems that have made healthcare too expensive for most of us were addressed.

    Don't get me wrong, it's a great thing that people will be insured. But to me the fact that they weren't insured in the first place is because health care simply costs too much. It's a symptom of a bigger problem. All I've read that this bill does is mandate that the symptom goes away.

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    • Then I assume you're for stronger controls on health care costs, right T?luckyorphan
    • I'm for figuring out where we've gone completely wrong and fixing that. To me this bill does nothing but make the problem bigger.mathinc
    • more pronounced down the road. Trust me, I want everyone to have access to medical care, but the costs are out of control.mathinc
    • That's what needs to be fixed. There was a really great two part show on This American Life that you might be interested in luckymathinc
    • that you might be interested in. Let me find some links.mathinc
    • More Is Less:
      http://www.thisameri…      mathinc
    • Someone elses Money:
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    • That was an awesome couple of episodes. Loved it. And it explained how f'ed up things are...luckyorphan
    • ...and that the two problems are 1. cost, and 2. access. This bill deals with #2, because that was what's possible today.luckyorphan
    • The President wanted a single payer system or a public option, which would address the cost issue...luckyorphan
    • ...pretty directly, but no one wanted it. So, they pass what they can. Representative gov't at work.luckyorphan
    • Unfortunately, I think you're viewing this too simply. I don't see how you think a single payer system addresses cost.mathinc
    • This bill could have included cost saving solutions, but they didn't.. because that would involve levying a dose of realitymathinc
    • on big money industries (pharma, insurance, doctors, lawyers) who all donate.mathinc
    • But I like your optimism! ;)mathinc
    • Also, I'm not faulting them for not including the cost cutting solutions. To be honest that's not even possible since all thesemathinc
    • crooks are in the pockets of corporations and special interests. We're cooked.mathinc
    • Sorry for the pessimism. :(mathinc
    • ha math incs got good ?'s. i personally look at the taboo employer based insurance as the main culprit of costs
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    • tax incentives promote it, social pressure and that too. takes the man away from the care. cant have cost control with 100% insurance coverage.
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    • insurance coverage. i think when you see hospitals openly advertise prices and such you will know things are working
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