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- luckyorphan0
deathboy, here's a line from that NY Times article that I think sums up the issue:
"And it is still unclear what effect, if any, the legislation would have on rising out-of-pocket medical costs and premiums."
Like I said above, it's a valid point. But this is hardly a reason to vote no on this bill. It does so much to help the disadvantaged and less healthy citizens. And everyone knows that dealing with the rising costs in addition to access to care is key to providing adequate care to all who need it.
In the end (to speak to your earlier question about how this saves money at all), according to an article in The Hill:
"The comprehensive health reform legislation will cost $940 billion over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said Thursday."
"The nonpartisan budget office told lawmakers that the health bill set for a vote this weekend would cut the deficit by $130 billion over the next decade, and $1.2 trillion in the second decade of the plan’s implementation."
That is a social program that lowers the deficit. That is a cost savings. Period.
- Don't fuck with the CBO.omgitsacamera
- That's the same CBO that the GOP cites whenever they back up their arguments.luckyorphan
- the CBO says what theyre told. still no idea of how. and it is unclear if there is any help to reduce costs... thats politics for ya********
- ya********
- i read a nytimes article today explaing how the numbers were likely manipulated, and it actaully adds to deficit about 560KKK.. how many k's is billions?********
- No, db. That is not politics. They are independent and non-partisan. You are incorrect.luckyorphan
- 560 billion. which im mor einclined to believe since its the first thign ive read that has reasons********
- something about a ponzi scheme with a 6yr collection before payout. cuts come out of education and medicare. those cuts are********
- cutas are called gains, but still theyre expenditures to another program. its quite twisted********
- how is it not partisan? and all the other number manipulation. you cant have your cake and eat it too********
- Please share the link to this story.luckyorphan
- explain how a expenditure of 940 billion turns into a 140 billion in profit. its really simple.********
- will do if i can find it... let me check********
- http://opinionator.b…********
- wait that doesnt seem right dont remember all the text pullouts... but i ahte looking for answers to the question i ask********
- the whole point of dialogue sis to improve your insights through other peoples perspectives. not to convince you of mine********
- All good. I'll read it. Thanks for the link.luckyorphan
- you of mine or my resources. im simply curious on the how spending near a trillion, has a profit margin of 1/5.********
- hey lucky this is the article. http://www.nytimes.c… didnt read theat other one thoguht it looked weird********
- deathboy that is one scary article. :(mathinc