Death of Flash

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    Sorry for the long post, but...

    I've built Flash web sites for the last 10 years or so, more than often completely made from Flash. Some flash stuff I've seen chugs along on my Mac Pro, so it is never going to work well on something with a lot less power...e.g The iPad...

    But I must point out that only 10% of people use a mac, and possibly 10% of those use an iPad... so that works out at 1%, meanwhile Flash penetration is at about 98.8% so more people don't have the Flash plug-in anyway... I've not included the iPhone in that as it doesn't suit the device...

    Why doesn't Flash suit the iPhone? Well the beauty behind Flash was the feedback you had with your mouse, rollovers that changed text, or opened sections of a site, or revealed navigation... How would that translate onto iPhone/iPad? it wouldn't... dragging your finger around scrolls the pages, not a mouse pointer... So a lot of the stuff I like about Flash wouldn't be used on there anyway.

    The good old days of Flash have gone also... the sites I still think are great, is not how Flash is used now. E.g the original Frost* site by de-construct, or the Spin site by Hi-res... these days all the Flash stuff seems to be bloated video playing sites... It is like going back to using videodiscs at school or a Don Bluth game where you just participate at key points of the site.

    In my opinion Flash and interaction design was always at its best when people were leaning forward and interacting in real time with Flash sites, now they tend to be lean back, and let the visuals wash over them. The problem is that however big the studio is, their video work looks amateur compared to broadcast and cinema. So you get the worst of both worlds... and end up with just piss poor telly.

    HTML5 or jQuery or mooTools are rapidly getting to the point where they allow for interaction design without digging through version and browser hell of javascript compatibility... and they allow a lot of the features I've always used in Flash.

    So sorry Adobe but unless you bring Flash back to the designers and stop throwing video, 3D capabilties etc at it, rather than fixing what doesn't work with it... then I'm out.

    • man, i totally agree 100%.showpony
    • yeah only Mac users have iPhones... OH HANG ON!BIGGESTDOGINTHEWORLD
    • I never said that.must_dash
    • you did "10% of people use a mac, and possibly 10% of those use an iPad... so that works out at 1%"
      BIGGESTDOGINTHEWORLD
    • that would assume that ipod users don't have a home computermust_dash
    • I think there are a lot of generalizations in your opinions. There are good and bad interactive Flash sites and good and bad flash video-heavy sites.CyBrain
    • and bad video-heavy sites.CyBrain

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