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  • FredMcWoozy0

    The town I grew up in California was the had the most electric cars per capita in the whole country. The city had a whole fleet of electric vehicles and guess what GM did after the lease was up with the city?

    Guess what they did to 300 electric vehicles?

    They smashed them because of the costs to charge the vehicles. $3.82 a mile is what it costs Sacramento, not sure what the cost was in my home town.

    http://www.evnut.com/fuel_cell.h…

    ° In 2008, a "green" hydrogen station opened in Sacramento. The station has extensive solar panels (80 KW), and uses the produced electricity to perform electrolysis, and compresses the hydrogen up to the 5000 psi needed by the hydrogen cars. It is energy neutral on the grid (net zero grid use). It powers hydrogen cars from sunlight, right? Sounds COOL! It's a joint venture between the City of Sacramento, BP, US Department of Energy, and Ford Motor Company.

    Now the details: The station cost $3.2 million, including the $1.7 million in solar panels. It produces 12kg of hydrogen per day (about the energy equivalient of 12 gallons of gasoline). It will be used by the city of Sacramento to power their 7 hydrogen cars each being driven 12,000 miles/year.

    If you figure the cost of the money at 5%, assume that the life of the facility is 20 years, and that there will be no maintenance or human involvement in 20 years (unlikely), the cost of each fillup (to go 230 miles) calculates to $879. Cost per mile: $3.82.

    A 20 mpg gas car costs about 20 cents per mile, and an efficient electric car costs 3 cents per mile.

    If the output of the solar array on this station was instead used to feed battery electric cars or plug-in hybrids, then the facility could support 54 electric cars, instead of 7 hydrogen cars, all being driven 230 miles per week. (The 80 KW solar array on the station will produce about 440 KWH per day, and a decent electric car or plug-in hybrid gets about 4 miles per KWH).

    • $3.82 per mile for each electric vehicle!FredMcWoozy
    • Anyone seen a FACT around here?ItTango
    • fact is hydrogen is not the way to go forward.janne76
    • more bullshit!!!utopian
    • FredMcWoozy can not even afford car, he lives at home with mommy.utopian
    • And he's a Republican!ETM
    • badly managed case study does not equal reality mcwoozylambsy

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