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  • TheBlueOne0

    deathboy - you obviously can't read what I wrote, nor did you understand my basic allusion to a natural world system. I disagree with your use of the word "distortion" which is a loaded term. I'm saying any aggregation of power in social space will bend that space to it's interests. How you can conceive of human society, humans being essentially a social creature, without lines and groups of power is totally fairy tale land.

    Humans ARE by definition social animals. We aren't lone hunters, as much as some try to think they're Rambo. Human society is a "natural phenomenon" and any person or group within it will and does exert influence. Has there been an organized human society somewhere that existed WITHOUT some form of government, or a group that fulfilled it's function?

    Furthermore, I'm making a general statement, the implications of which you ignore, and then you start to ask, in bad, incomplete english a specific policy criticism, "explain how the distortions of government by securing school loans made the education system better with skyrocketing "..without skyrocketing what? And you're not even explaining the terms of what you see as "distortions" in whatever you're trying to say government is doing with whatever point you're trying to make about it. Further, you're making a "better or worse" point, when I was addressing your fundamental point about "government distortion".

    I'm going to define "distortion" as "interest"..so yes the government has "interest" in the functioning of a society - it being, in a democracy - the collective will of the voting population. Private groups have "interests" too. They attempt through action, investment, etc. to "distort" the social playing field to their cause as well. So I don't understand how you see one party as "distorting" and another as "natural". Governments, or the will to self-governance by human societies preceded the development of markets, so I would posit that governments, or the function they play, are more fundamentally "natural" to human societies than "free markets".

    Tribal human societies have governmental systems, whether it be a hereditary strongman, a ruling family, some sort of coucnil of elders, etc...but exist without the ideology of a "free market". So I would say that the consolidation of economic interests within a market framework are the actual "distortions" on the social space of human societies normal functioning.

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