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Socialism is about putting people above profit.
I find it ridiculous that so many people in America seem to view socialism so negatively - is it because they're equating it with communism?
The majority of societies' recent problems have be caused by greedy self-interested bastards. The rich will always be okay, and the poor will most like _stay_ poor unless the system helps to redress the balance.
The main problem with the world is that anyone who has accumulated any wealth, generally will do _anything_ to not have to give any of it away.
I reckon the main reason people don't like the idea of a more accessible health care system in the 'states is because they don't want to have to pay for a body of people who in all likelihood will stay poor for the rest of their life. As I see it - it's a morally corrupt standpoint, and should be completely un-acceptable to any society that wants to see itself as civilised.
I think that a major reason that concepts of 'socialism' are frowned upon in the US so vehemently, is that Americans have had the myth of the 'American Dream' drummed into them so severely that they can't help but believe it.
Once upon a time it was probably very likely that any person, with a bit of effort and determination, could make it rich - but now the gap between the rich and the poor is so wide, that moving up from the bottom end of the social scale is more akin to winning the lottery, than fulfilling an American birth-right.
The reason I think that the concept of the American Dream is so problematic, is because believing in it leads to the idea that people who are poor, are poor because they're lazy. (i.e. if they'd get up off their butts and work, they'd be rich like the rest of society). This notion is quite frankly bullshit. Being born into money, generally means that you'll be rich for life; and the opposite is also true unless we enable our governments to help those who are more disadvantaged.
America needs to look after it's poor.
- American Dream is "Life, Liberty & the pursuit of Happiness"...robotron3k
- but that "Happiness" part is not guaranteed...robotron3k
- I could have sworn it was life, celebrity and the pursuit of wealth.********
- well said lukuslambsy