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- TheBlueOne0
The problem is that government has been so wildly successful that people don't even realize it. It's like air. They don't see it, don't contemplate it's importance and despite the fact that all market enterprise rests on a working government architecture, think this "free market" stuff floats out there in the ether supporting itself.
How about this little thought experiment, eh? Auto industry. Car. Great stuff. People argue back and forth about whether unions ruined them or not. They use that as some sort of argument for or against "socialism. You can get political about imports too. Or how some smart hotshot saved Chrysler, or Ford or whatever.
Well, a) the fuel the cars run on is subsidized by your tax dollars. b) the cars and infrastructure that allow these fantabulous machines of free market profit to ride around relatively damage free? These fantastic roads and highways and street signs? Wow. Tax dollars at work.
How about we subtract just those too things to the incredible free market auto industry mix, eh? Let's see, so gas would be at a true "free market" rate..so we're at what? $8, $9 a gallon? How about driving these things on brokedown potholed roads? Oh welll expect high repair bills. Oh, you say we can privitize the roads? Great! Then expect toll booths all over the place and arbitrary rules of the road every time you cross from one section of road owned by one company to another. Oh look here "Free Road" corp charged you $10 to ride down it's ten mile stretch of highway and oh, they caught you not signaling on their "security cam" which violated their implied EULA you agreed to by driving on their road and they won't let you off until you pay an additional amount. You really don't think that wouldn't happen?
In other words, government subsidized, accountable to the democratic process roads and fuel allows the auto industry to make a profit. Otherwise the only people who would have cars would be rich folks.
This works for most industries. Go ahead and look at agricultural subsidies, or energy subsidies...all this shit that the "free market" relies on is funded by YOU and public money. The "free market" couldn't exist otherwise...yet these "free market" people think they do it all by sheer force of will. Not even close. And let's not get into the amount of money spent on having a working law and enforcement system to guarantee contracts are, you know, enforcable.
And let's not get into the few trillion we just handed to the banks because they were greedy fucks and grinded the whole credit industry into the fucking ground. Yeah, that kinda "socialism" is a-ok, right?
- wildly sucessful?
*chucklesstyleplus_amillion - Move to somalia where the government doesn't work moron. You'll be a warlords butt boy in a day or so.TheBlueOne
- The trillion stolen from you all is a good example as it's the essence of socialism. There's even more to be stolen in the..raf
- ..socialized health care systemraf
- raf makes a sound point.styleplus_amillion
- wildly sucessful?