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I mean if you actually do some reading on the American Founding generation you get the whole breadth of opinions on issues, from Jefferson's Agrarian Gentleman Utopia to Paine's damn near utlitarian socialist democracy to Hamilton's Federalized high finance system. They were all their from the beginning...and they all glossed over Paine's stuff, and Jefferson and Hamilton went at it head to head. On top of it they did everything possible to sweep the biggest issue - slavery - under the rug just to get some sort of temporary consensus. Yeah, like that didn't blow up in our faces.
So all this shit - systemic racism, federalized banking, ongoing revolutionary zeal, athiests, Deists, christians, etc. - were here from the beginning, and still serves as the parameters of much of our political battles. Which always cracks me up when these rightwing morons lay claim to "making it be like the Founders did it" and just cherry picking what they want to support their half-ass arguments. That is some total straight up Nazi bullshit right there (they also claimed to know what being "originally germanic" was all about) FFS, Burr killed Hamilton in a fucking duel over this shit. Which side are you going to take between those two, eh? 'Cause they were both Founders, original signers and all.
Anyway, it just infuriates me when people trot out 1st grade postage stamp level understandings of the origins of their own nation's history and think it justifies some half-ass spoon fed opinion they have.