Inside The KDU
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I have never really known very much about the KDU but it seems to me that the criticisms levelled at the group might just be the result of having too high expectations to begin with.
I would imagine that people assume they will join the group, get lots of work on lots of projects and get paid very highly for it.
In the first film that MWM bloke pretty much states that its like a crowd sourcing system, and that a job comes in and many people worldwide are given a chance to be do something in response. They wont be using all that work though, only a few people's responses will be appropriate, and so everyone else is maybe left feeling disgruntled that they worked on it but got nothing back... free pitching in other words.
Of those that do get picked, its easy to sit there and think "I did all this illustrated typography so I should be paid tens of thousands" but the reality is that the pay for just doing some lettering (or some photography, or some design etc) on a project that has by nature involved a whole host of contributors is not going to yield a great fortune for the individual.
I don't know hardly anything about the KDU, and what I have heard has always been negative, so I have been naturally suspicious of them and their motives. But having watched those films I can't help thinking this is in essence a great idea and its a shame its criticised so much. I can't say I love the work all that much, its very much of a certain style and quite a generic trend driven style at that, but with this set up they can ride all trends and adopt and drop at will.
Maybe that too is why people get disgruntled... maybe some people ride high on the KDU wave for a while but then find their style is not being used as things evolve and they end up feeling left behind and bitter.
I would be really interested to know what actual tangible examples of unfair treatment there are floating round out there. I would really like to know if anyone has actually been promised X amount of payment and received little or nothing at all in reality.
Otherwise I just can't help feeling this is potentially a good idea that is being undermined by naive expectations from some of its participants.
It makes me think that all the time we all spend on here could be spent creating an alternative organisation to rival the KDU.
- There. Thats my morning essay dealt with.Horp
- I'll take this to read on holiday.Jnr_Madison
- Finished all your Maeve Binchy novels then Jnr?Horp
- She's no Jane Austen.Jnr_Madison
- this pretty much nails it as to why people hate, they expect it to be a hype machine to make them design celebrities and it is not that.pepe
- Completely agree. Like that last paragraph a lot too! :-)identity
- With such collaborative successes as the Fucking LOLCube I don't see why notMSTRPLN