Protests in Tehran Iran

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    People in Iran are 'more pro-Western' or less. But pro-Western in Iranian context means that they are willing to talk. Not blow us up.

    There are a number of problems in the Middle East in which we ('the West') are or have been involved in.

    - Israel.
    What is now the UN basically forced the state of Israel down the throats of what was then Palestine. We're talking about the 50's. After WWII the 'world' agreed that the 'promised land' would be an awesome spot for a new country. And since Palestine was under British control it was easy to get to it. Now we're so deep in a mess there and Israel's behaving to arrogantly, no wonder it's a problem. If I were a friend of the Palestinians (Iran, Saudi-Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, you name it) i'd be pissed off too!

    - Iraq
    Saddam was - a long time ago - one of many puppets the US played with. Giving him weapons to stay in power and fight wars with Iran. Hello? Iran! Yes. Iran.

    - Iran
    Again the US meddled here, helping feed a fire amongst students to overthrow the shah. Back then there were probably fine reasons, however short-sighted they were.

    - Afghanistan
    The US gave the Taliban weapons when the Russians (back then still the Soviet Union) invaded. They made the already quite battle hardened Taliban even tougher with arms provided. Little did they know that 20 years later they'd be there fighting again.

    I'm a bit shaky about what exactly was done in Iran and Iraq. But the fact of the matter is, there has been a lot of meddling behind the curtains. Dirty stuff - you know. And shit is trying to correct itself now. But it ain't easy, there are so many underlying connections and ties to one another.

    No wonder though, that the middle east is so poised against the US first and the EU (a somewhat distant) second. But the western lifestyle in general.

    • almost total nonsense, certainly ill-informed.
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    • for instance: US did not help feed a fire to overthrow the Shah unless educating student in US schools qualifies.
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    • Afghanistan: Taliban came rather late to the conflict and after the Soviets left.
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    • syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia not friends of Palestinians as any 50 year old refugee camp proves.
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