ownership of design

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  • Corvo20

    Funny enough, it all ends on your own country's border, unless you trademark it internationally for a lot of cash annually.

    Imagine this: apart from good-will and self-respect, what really stops a company you worked for in the US from contracting a design service in another country even if it looks almost exactly like yours?

    I never looked upon this too deeply, but my guess is that, presently, if you really want to steal someone else's work all you need is a contract/receipt from abroad.

    • You don't have to register a trademark to have rights in it internationally. Registering helps of course.ribit
    • So, if I decide to steal your website and your work what will you do?Corvo2
    • take action through your webhost, domain registrar, then maybe legal action.ribit
    • Well maybe because we're in the EU... But imagine I register my company in Sudan, Egypt, Norway or Argentina.Corvo2
    • I still can take action re hosting and domain registrar. Legal action just more complicated...(never got that far)ribit
    • And what if my web host is in the US but my work is trademarked in Lebanon? See? It's complicated.Corvo2
    • ..far yet, but have had success getting sites taken down for copyright infringement)ribit
    • You don't trademark your work.. the trademark belongs to the company that uses the mark. You mean copyright?ribit
    • I'd chase your webhost in US. The trademark registration in lebanon applies only to use in Lebanon (is it used there?)ribit
    • ...unless your trademark registration is for a region (does Lebanon offer that?)ribit
    • Yes, I mean copyrights: e.g. you can trademark IP here (say EU), but you can't be sure it works the same in another continent, bc law differs.Corvo2
    • but really not sure what are we discussing, your rights to the trademark, or your rights in the design...ribit
    • country because copyrights infringements differ from country to country.Corvo2
    • I think you are confusing 'trademark' with copyright and other IP.ribit
    • Ok, cross-posting doesn't help either.Corvo2
    • Hmmm, I see your point. But what's the value of IP internationally? it needs to be copyright-ed I believe?Corvo2
    • And that means getting a trademark...Corvo2
    • nooo....
      copyright doesn't need to be registered. And trademark is quite a separate thing...
      ribit
    • I'm not confusing IP or (c) with TM. You can register a service as a TM here, much like a company.Corvo2
    • you get rights to a mark by using it. You can enhance your rights by registration. but this is quite separate to designing a logo..ribit
    • ..logo that is then used as a trademark.ribit
    • TM assets rights in a trademark. (R) denotes a registered trademark.ribit
    • [most confusing note thread ever?]ribit
    • vote nowribit
    • *TM asserts rights in a trademark.ribit
    • look below pls. I've posted a response.Corvo2
    • And yeah, I at least am confused right now.Corvo2

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