<===Richard Kern
Out of context: Reply #48
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First of all i wasn't talking about the shots of girls putting contact lenses in, etc.
i was talking about the shots that ARE very pornographic and fit into the category very much so.
can you please tell me how an 18 year old on a bed with a blue condom hanging out of her crotch is not sexually explicit? And how do you compare that to a Calvin Klein add? Please amuse me. I am not being vindictive, just more than interested how you can compare the two?
Please don't give me comments like , "have you seen a playboy" and try to insult my intellect. I am sure that you read playboy for the articles as well?
Being in the industry i have seen far more than most. And know that there is a very fine line in this category. That is why i posted the two links of digitalgirly which is not for commercial purpose and suicide girls which is for commercial purpose.
Being an artist and a WOMAN, i assure you i know what OBJECTIFICATION of woman is. THAT is what you don't see nudes of MEN on his site. Read his bio as well...maybe that will give you a better idea of his work if you have not done so yet.
If you don't think that these shots aren't porn, then go ahead and show then to a 4th grade classroom. I don't think it would fly. But if you take a field trip to the Museum and under age crowd sees nudes represented there, I don't think there will be a problem.
Just because he has a sterile approach, much like Kubrik in and his treatment of nudity/sex on screen, doesn’t mean that it is not considered pornographic imagery. Now you will probably say that Kurik can’t be considered porn. True, he is one of my favorite directors and I think that he does his work with a certain level of class and yet pushes it to the limit. But Kern takes his images to an even more Aggressive level in my opinion ; a Passive aggressive level that sparks conversations such as this one and this thread.
I repeat myself again, I am ONLY referring to the more vulgar/provocative photos and not of a girl picking her nose, putting in contacts, etc.
i think i made my points very valid and i will not talk in circles.
Your thoughts are just that. To each his own. Respect. Art/beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I nor anyone else can take that away from you. We see things differently and good for us otherwise this world would be a very boring place.
Peas and nudity,
vip