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Now I'll be critical of Obama - based on the following comment found on the internets:
"When he is specific, Obama has been consistently clear that he is for transferring ops from Iraq to Afghanistan rather than ending the GWOT, for beefing up the military while changing its mission to suit current challenges, and for tweaking economic neoliberalism to make it more user-friendly without abandoning the neo-imperialism and neocolonialism that it involves. This basically playing the same hand a different way, not a new deal, let alone proposing a new vision, as some seem to feel he is. Unfortunately, many people are hearing "hope" and "change" and filling in what they want to hear and then thinking that Obama said it himself. That's not what I'm hearing, and I've been saying this from the get-go."
I agree with this pretty much, although I'll allow that maybe Obama is saying certain things to get elected and then he'll swing Left. There is nothing that Obama has specifically said that makes him Radical Left or even plain old left. He's center Left at best - or more accurately somewhere between Reagan and Clinton. It's not my ideal place, but it is better place to aim than Bush has done in 8 years - or where McCain's Neo-Con masters will continue to steer him
But I do agree with the guy's comment in that alot of democrats are reading into Obama's rhetoric what they want to hear and fill it in with all sorts of left progressive fantasies. And the Right is making an anti-Obama campaign based on the beliefs of the rank and file Dems as well - trying to paint Obama as a "socialist and friend of the Radical Left" which he is very very far from, which strikes me as rather funny. Either way I think Obama will have to use all his political mojo to steer an odd course between the disappointment of his own party and the sure-as-shit neo-vast-right-wing-conspiracy the radical right will bring against him (starting at day one, already started already - the "socialist/terrorist/muslim/hate... america" meme ain't going to go anywhere, only built upon...).
I like Obama. I like his character and his leadreship abilities, I like his real politik take on foreign policy. But beyond that I am very uncertain about the guy when it comes to how his specific policies will work out. He's definitely nowhere near progressive enough for me. My main bone of support for him is that he has created this monster of a grassroots movement, that has gotten people involved in government again. That's something that died in the last two decades - and it's high time it returns to the political landscape of the US. Obama has been the catylst of this movement, and he might even end up hung on it's pointy petardy end by the time his presidency draws to a close, but dammit it's about time people stand up and demand accoutnablity from power in the United States again.
- But I do agree with the guy's comment in that alot of democrats are reading into Obama's rhetoric....********
- I agree as well...it's not what he is saying at all...TheBlueOne
- But I do agree with the guy's comment in that alot of democrats are reading into Obama's rhetoric....