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TBO,
With all due respect. The post you made makes me cringe. Here's why.
Yes those programs helped fuck up this economy. We both agree that they 'helped' get us into this position. The last 16 years of questionable leadership from the top also played a part. The FED is a huge player in this problem. The mortgage lenders/industry are also very responsible for this mess.
Here's where I differ. MACRO: Did the government 'tell' them to bundle these? No. Did it stop them? No. Were these banks giving gobs and gobs of money to both Republicans AND Democrats. Yes. A most emphatic YES. Our government on BOTH sides sold us up a fucking creek. It's not some Republican adgenda. It's a government adgenda.
MICRO - 'It's the classic - "Well the slut was wearing a miniskirt! She was askin' to get gang raped!" defense'. Is where I have the biggest problem with your post. So the people who are now poor because they didn't save, they over spent, they got into loans without using their heads are now the poor poor victims of the rich? I'm sorry if this sounds completely cold, but people make their own choices in life. No one MADE these people go sign up for loans they and their lenders knew they shouldn't have. Your storybook poor poor victims were greedy, just as the banks were, just as our government was. My storybook poor poor victims in this mess are the people who DID think ahead, who DID act responsibly and are now paying the tab. The rich are included in my pool of victims. :) You might want to make blanket categorizations of the 'rich' but most of the rich in this country are the people who've make good choices. Sure sure I know how liberals see the rich. A pack of blood thirsty goat-fuckers who are out of touch and would eat their neighbors child if it gave them a leg up. But it's simply not true. Do we believe that all 16 year old girls act the way those spoiled girls act on that show - My Sweet Sixteen?? Yes there are plenty of greedy rich bastards, but there is also plenty of blame to go around. It's just really easy to throw the rich under the bus. I think we can (or should) all agree that people make their choices, the quality of your choices determine your outcome. The rich taking advantage of the poor. Please. Everyone fucked each other in the ass on this one (no lube). Everyone. A HUGE majority of the 'rich' are responsible people who make sound choices - oh I know this is blasphemy! Now because of our governments un-sound policies, mortgage industries un-sound policies, and those poor poor victims who made very bad choices the responsible are ALSO getting hit hard. Those are the victims. The people who saved and saved over the past decades so they can retire and enjoy life. The people who lived smaller and bought the things they could afford. Everyone else in this mess was playing with fire. Your logic about the slut in the miniskirt makes the assumption that the raping of the 'slut' was ONLY caused because she wore a miniskirt. It should be - "Well the slut was wearing a miniskirt and put my dick in her mouth! She was askin' to give me a blowjob so why is she now calling it rape?!" defense' That's more accurate.
- It was a two party deal - what I'm saying is this whole "ACORN did it" is Republican BS to limit their culpability...TheBlueOne
- ..don't let either party dick around with their responsibility for this clusterfuck.TheBlueOne
- besides..exactly why I've hjust now realized to now longer argue on the internet...TheBlueOne
- My masters in poly sci grinds to a halt against designer knowledge...TheBlueOne
- ..people pick up on the tossed off flippant part and write a dissertation on it...TheBlueOne
- Of course republicans are going to pick and choose their culprits. So are the dems. It's insane the way our govtommyo
- acts like and treats us like children. I'm sickened and we need a change. All I'm saying is that as citizens we need totommyo
- stop parroting the rhetoric and open our eyes to the fact that both sides of gov, corporations and people need to accept blame.tommyo
- blame. (I hate when the last word doesn't fit in this fucking box!!!!)tommyo
- "It's not some Republican adgenda. It's a government adgenda." - BINGO!********
- No, not a government agenda, it's a corporate agenda. They just pay the politicians to help.DCDesigns