spore vs jesus
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BTO,
I agree with you that most of this stuff is a mere distraction, a side-issue, or "baubles" as you say. The "meat" of everything can really be broken down to a few basic principles. In your words "Be excellent to one another", is indeed one of those basic principles.I do however still think that all religions are mutually exclusive. The idea that all paths lead to the same God, is basically a New-Age idea. No practicing religion will hold this belief. So the options are either they are all false, or one of them is true, but they cannot all be true simply based on their own teachings that vastly contradict one another. You might say they all contain "some truth" (forgive me if I'm putting words in your mouth) but this again would basically contradict the message of the Gospel (and other religious texts). It is an increasingly popular view that everything is relative, where all paths lead to the same God. But to me this leaves an ambigious, global "religion" where nobody is really accountable for anything. You in a sense, create your own religion. What can be said of this? People say hey "that works for you great, but my truth is.....xyz" This of course cannot be true by it's very definition....it is self-defeating. You can't create "truth", there simply has to some objective moral standard. For me, that is the Bible. For others that is the Book of Mormon, or whatever. That is where it takes alot of dissecting to really dig in and see the origins and if the book actually holds any weight.
When you say "I have come to believe that the Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus spoke about is Here. Now. It's not coming later. It wasn't before in some other time. It is simply Here. Now." you are doing exactly what I describe above imo. Great if you believe that to be true, but that does not make it true...and in fact again, I don't see any way you could get that message out of the texts. The gnostic gospels never made the final cut because they were never accepted by the church body. They were known from the begging to be either counterfeit or not part of the gospel message.
Anyway guess we will have to agree to disagree, but I wanted to at least respond to your well thought post.
- What they have in common is that they're all irrational man-made philosophies.Mimio
- By saying that you must be coming from authoritative position that has the absolute truth, no?designbot
- naked assertion. And arrogant as it requires the one who asserts be omniscient.teleos
- exactly, designbot. Its a position that assumes that which it tries to refute.teleos
- The jury isn't out kids, they're supernatural tales recorded by people.Mimio
- The Abrahamic religions that is...Mimio
- Anyway, the burden of proof doesn't lay with me.Mimio