spore vs jesus
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- TheBlueOne0
In my limited understanding of the Biblical tradition, and other religions in the same tradition as well (judaism, Islam), the terrain of the Divine is found solely in my relation with others. God is found in our relationships with others and we are judged on the same.
For example, Christians say many, if not all, of the old testament Jewish "laws" about diet, clean and unclean, etc. and so forth are no longer considered necessary and are discarded - fulfilled by the simple laws of Jesus.
Even then, the God of the Old Testament warns in the Book of Job for Humans to not get all uppity and presumptuous about how the whole universe is supposed to work anyway - makes it an non-religious question - "Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."
God is basically saying "Hey puny human, who the hell do you think you are as to use my name in your descriptions of how you think the universe I made works."
I'm pretty agnostic, and god is more conceptual to me than as a personal supreme being, but I hardly think that science is trying to answer the "why" question about existence..just "how". God, in the book of Job, seems to get pissed off at presumptuos humans about ascribing their own notions of "why" to it all.
Creationism smacks of looking for the "certainty" of the "why" of the universe.
This concentration on the physical nature of the universe smacks me more of paganism than the Christianity spoken of by Christ in the New Testament.
- so teleos, gird up those loins - I think you're god is going to ask for an accounting of why you're so concerned with this...TheBlueOne
- theres a lot of smacking going on in your argument. sounds pleasurable.cannonball