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so, what is crumbling? Your tolerance or the economic model?
What are the menaces now?
Witt
(Nov 6 07, 17:00)both, but even more recently, things seem slightly more positive.
as one of the better Dutch thinkers, Paul Scheffer, said: Conflict (verbal) between natives and ethnic groups (read Muslims) finally makes way for dialogue and ultimately understanding..
he did not say it that literally, yet made the same point. there's been a lot of heated debates recently, and plenty of tension on both social, cultural and political level (but where not these days?).
there's the issue of space, the infinite disaster called traffic jams, rapidly growing population, ever growing demand for housing and neverending rise of real estate value, the fight against the effects of global warming (flood management), and as mentioned ealier, seemingly serious integration problems of mainly Islamic citizens, etc. etc.
Yet, since the debate seem to reach slightly more mature and academic levels lately, issues are pointed out more precisely and a stream of newly initiated dialogues seem to drive frustration and anger out of the cave and into the open for all to be challenged, instead of conserved.