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how in the hell does science define spirituality? The spiritual cannot be witnessed in this world, we can only see evidence (for those who have eyes to see).
None of the tenets of Christianity have been disproven thus far by your scientific religion, miko. I don't know where you get such hairbrained, pig-headed notions. I'm not saying I can prove everything I believe in your scientific court of law, but I am saying that you are sadly mistaken if you believe that science has explained or is even capable of explaining the spiritual.
Science is based upon observation and calculable data. Spirituality cannot be measured, weighed or studied in a lab. Its manifestations in our world have been interpreted in a myriad ways. True spirituality is based in revelation, not human concoction. Period.
And you are wrong about hell and heaven. Hell is a Greek word, and thus does not appear in the Old Testament, which was written before the Diaspora (broad acceptance of Greek as the language of literature). There are a couple Hebrew words for hell and Satan that I am aware of: Sheol and Abaddon. Sheol roughly translates to "abode of the dead" or "the pit". Abaddon means "The destroyer, or angel of the bottomless pit; the same as Greek names Apollyon and Asmodeus".
Old Testament verses about hell:
Psalm 9:17
"The wicked return to Sheol, all the nations that forget God"Deuteronomy 32:22
"For a fire has been kindled by my wrath, one that burns to Sheol [English often translate to 'realm of death'] below. It will devour the earth and its harvests and set afire the foundations of the mountains."Psalm 86:13
"For great is your love toward me; you have delivered me from the depths of Sheol."Job 1: The Hebrew name "Abaddon" as defined above has been translated as "Satan" (Greek name) in all English Bibles:
"One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."
Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil."
"Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."
The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger." Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD."
Heaven in the Old Testament:
Psalm 148:2
"Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his heavenly hosts."Isaiah 65:17
""Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind."Isaiah 66:22
"As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me," declares the LORD, "so will your name and descendants endure."-------------
These passages are all part of the Jewish Torah and Prophets. The modern Jewish notion that hell and heaven are not mentioned in the Torah is a flat-out lie based on malice and laziness. It's a slap in the face to orthodox Judaism.