The Devil's Bible
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- gramme0
Gramme, by your own logic, then, any idea of spirituality that humans define has an equal amount of validity/invalidity due to its own lack of being empirically provable. That would make all ideas right and wrong simultaneously. To choose any idea as right is to admit it is also wrong. Duality could be the very underlying nature of reality/unreality.
Also, when you cite the example of scientific discoveries as new-found truths, you directly support the argument in favor of empirical evidence. You cannot have/eat your cake with this logic unless you choose to agree that duality is the very nature of us/them.
Faith in a god and lack of faith in a god are the same question/answer. We all float in the ether inbetween...
duckofrubber
(Sep 27 07, 10:08)Yes, that would all be true and completely logical, if you hadn't missed the crux of my logic and the foundation of my belief (logic and belief being two very different things): my ideas on spirituality were not authored by any human being, but were revealed by Another greater Source that exists outside of time, outside of corruption and far above quaint human comprehension.
This explains why there are some things in the Bible that don't "make sense" to me or most others. A lot of it is accessible because, according to the aforementioned book, God actually does want to be understood, at least as much as weak human minds can grasp. These "incomprehensibles" are things like the Trinity, the idea of God being both fully God and fully man in the person of Jesus, etc. etc.
My point with the scientific analogy was merely that truth is out there, is to an unknown degree undiscovered, and does not take on true existence at our intellectual request. There are two ways that truth can be realized, and the methods each work for different kinds of truth: 1) Empirical scientific method and 2) Spiritual Revelation. The basic difference between the two methods is that the first is driven by humanity and the second is driven by divinity.
Faith in a God or gods and lack of faith are both products of belief. They are two completely different answers to the same question, and they cannot both be right. God cannot both exist in a real sense and not exist at the same time.