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the exageration of the intelligence services is well documented, and the political pressure they were put under to declare war was also well documented.
I am writing this in a hurry, bvt some people out there believe that the unleashing of a civil war in Iraq, the massacres that are carrying on out there, the strengthening of Iran, and the hole that region is being plunged into was not worth the price of this democratisaton process. But of course your resolve is so unshakable, thatyou think this war was simply a spledid idea.
I dont even know if it was Saddam who let Zarqawi in, I dont even know who let him in. But the fact that he was smuggled over the border from Afghanistan by a group that was never controlled by Hussein tells me his support network was rooted somewhere else.
To keep labouring the point, no member of Saddam's regime had any direct contact with the Al-Qaeda group. The Ba'ath party gave them neither material nor logistical support. This was contrary to how Bush sold the war to his people - insinuating that Saddam was somehow directly linked to 9/11. I didn't say there was "no terrorists" in Iraq. There are terrorists everywhere, There fucking terrorists in Sweden at this minute, given visas by the Swedish government., I said Iraq has become a hotbed of global Jihadism after the invasion, you fuckin idiot - it wasn't so before. You could sight countries from Indonesia to Ireland to South America in which terrorist cells operate. I am trying to stressing, the way the war was sold. It was insinuated that Al Qaeda were linked to Saddam, as intimately as they were linked to the Taliban. That is bullshit. Your pointing out tendentious links between various terrorist groups across the world. The IRA were also linked to the FARC in colombia - this is what these groups with disparate aims do. I'm pointing out, that the war was sold by Bush implying that Saddam was intending to send WMDs to the United States, by an Al Qaeda courier. They've been struggling to provide EVIDENCE for that. If an independent Islamist group, in a region Saddam had no control over, had contacts (and i'm taking your word for this) with whatever personality who was also linked to Al Qaeda - then i dont see how this implies that the Ba'ath party was preparing another 9/11.
Why was there such clear pressure for the intelligence services to provide evidence for WMDs? Why weren't they just allowed to do their job and the adminsitration judge the evidence on its own merits - like they should? Perhaps they wanted war for other reasons than WMDs.