Root of all Evil
Out of context: Reply #82
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"Marxist ever fought for atheism, or even materialism – they fought for class and the redistribution of wealth (in whatever perverse ideology)."
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You completely miss the point, Kus. We are looking at undergirding world views which shape political ideals and movements. Not what a group is "fighting for". Rather, what is driving them, ideologically.
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"Obviously, egotistical leaders driven by subservience to a higher ideology ended up fermenting some terrible terrible tragedies."
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This demonstrates my point. The philosophies driving said leadership and the end result. And "terrible tragedies" would be an understatement.
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"The ideology that inspired the Nazi’s was the most extreme form of Nationalism. "
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Nonsense. Not at it's root. Dig deeper, kuzz. It was Social Darwinism with a throttle grip on Neitzche-esque materialism, in action. Ultimately, THIS is why jews were exterminated. Don't sugar coat what actually happened.
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"Both fascism and nationalism has absolutely nothing to do with atheism."
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Did you really write that???? Are you insane or thoroughly in denial? To divorce these notions is intellectual suicide and historical revisionism.
And I'm not talking about conflict spurred by Nationalism. I'm talking about unbridled murder which has it's ultimate roots in a philosophical world view which denies that man was created with a purpose. Atheism.
What you need, Kus is to stop trying to empathize with such a world view and it's proponents and dig into the evils which it actually causes.