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- KuzII0
Sorry I had to leave Cocktus, I had a life outside NT to attend to.
I’m trying to discern a point beyond the patronising sarcasm of your last post. But from the posts you have made in this forum it’s quite easy to see that you like to put people into boxes before you’re able to challenge them. That George Galloway thread you started was quite funny, failed to catch fire though. I think it is quite demonstrative of your own lack of sophistication that you chose to dodge the issues we were talking about and instead make personal comments and judgements. Anyway, to answer your very leading questions.
Do I think there is a problem with Islam? I personally have countless problems with that religion in all its guises. But I also think it displays a lack of sophisticated understanding on your part if you think Islam as a monolith is a threat to peace and tranquillity in the world. Have you read Huntingdon’s clash of civilisations? He makes similar unsophisticated and misguided judgements. As far as I can see, US foreign policy poses a much greater threat to global peace and security than the existence of a religion called Islam (in all its denominations). Moreover, before you try to box me again to make arguing easier on yourself, my issues in this thread was the seeming parallels being drawn by people like you between Jihadism and the uneasy assimilation of young, poor, immigrants. In both cases, I don’t see Islam as the key problem. On the one hand I see US foreign policy as stirring global hatred (which you’ll see as much evident amongst the socialist Left in Hong Kong this week, only the counter-Imperialist Left lacks the millenarianism that the Islamic counter-Imperialists can draw on). And on the other hand, I see an often repeated story of uneasy assimilation of immigrants, which media and ingrained racism turns into a clash of cultures, since hatred of Islam seems to be the flavour of our epoch. I could easily have told you a story of the “Yugos” and Serbs in my area who walk around in gangs and have “given me shit” on buses etc, but I don’t think that would raise the same passions since they are not Muslims.
Your posts are funny Cocktus, cos you seem more concerned with baiting than actually making a point. That’s either down to your own insecurities, or cowardice. I think it’s a bit of both.
(ps, my “guiding principle” is not “anything that does down America is good”, I find principles irksome).