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so we are scared of terrorists who hate us for our way of life and we respond by changing our way of life?
The fear of an unknown enemy being used to push through legislation that governments have had on the table for years?
Sounds very Orwellian if you ask me!
The presumption of innocence is one of the most important civil liberties we have. Take that away and you are beholden on the police or a judge making decisions without a jury of your peers.
That has to be the scariest directions this country has ever taken. It's not about the length of time they want to hold 'suspects' for Moth, it's the fact they can and will.
Look at Belmarsh. Look at Guantanemo Bay. No access to legal representation, held indefinitely. All based solely what a judge or the police present as fact.
The system at the moment means that has to be proven. They way they want to push this means you will have to prove your innocence.
That's just wrong mate, pure and simple.
Fuck, even the government know it, they can't get a agreement on it in their own party, let alone a wider consensus!
It's scary and it's not what I voted for either.