discipler
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ok, I understand where you're coming from..
I have in the recent past adopted almost a similar position, theologically with regard to physical laws..
To my mind, if there is a god, then surely its greatest expression is as the laws of physics - the most irreducible set of facts we have discovered..
The quest for a theory of everything, namely an equation that can describe all states and interactions of energy/matter/time has been made famous by our mutual friend who labelled it The Mind Of God..
Thus we come to the point in hand - armed with this equation, which may be discovered 2moro, or might take a millenia, it might never be found, how wouuld you distinguish your position from that of a physicist who calls this equation god ?
This is surely the prime essence of all existence, it is from this that all things are derived, this is anything, is worthy of the title God..
If all we are lacking in this scheme is a few details on some complex, but not incomprehensible chemistry/thermodynamics/turbule... then where in this scheme does your idea of a 'supernatural' force fit ?
Why do you not entertain the idea that knowing the fundamental, most basic prinicple of how matter, energy and time behave, that the more complex behaviors cannot be solved ?
Were someone able to demostrate to you that living systems can arise from 'merely' the more complex ramifications of this theory, would the universe seem less full to you ? Would life lose its wonder, its magic and awesomeness ?
I believe fervently that it can be explained and modelled in theory, indeed that only adds to the wonder of the world, that it has organised itself into these irreducibly complex living systems that have the ability to understand themselves.
That, to me, is God creating man in his own image - our explicit coneptualisation and quantification of the 'the unversal' meta-experience is becoming close to God, not further away, which to be honest, finding gaps in the understanding and papering over with 2000 year old middle-eastern philosophy is.
God/Universe/Self reveals itself to us through beauty and understanding, as physical and mathematical laws..
God IS the laws of physics, including and especially those artefacts of same that are Self-reflective..