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Discipler: "The point that has to be driven home is that slow, successive modifications + random chance cannot produce irreducibly complex systems... not even with all the time in the world."
You have not unproven my point that slow + successive modifications + random chance cannot produce irreducibly complex systems. My point is that it has, hence the internet. You say that my analogy is limited. But yours is even more so because it requires something that you cannot observe or prove.
Discipler: "Additionally, our ability to reason, have a first-person perspective, express selfless love, and other metaphysical realities, demonstrate that we are categorically superior to "animals"."
It's only the metaphysical aspect that differs and confuses us even more. A rat can reason that if it touches a button food will come out. Even if there is pain applied. If the pain outweighs the need then it will no longer do it. Reason. Selfless love is an unproven concept as I believe that all love is to a certain extent selfish be it selfish for the good of the species, the parent, or the lover. Love is a complex web of symbiotic motivations that all animals have demonstrated. Even love for Jesus Christ is selfishly motivated as there is a supposed reward for that love and that is eternal life in heaven. If there was no promised reward there would be no point. I would not learn the things I have learned if there wasn't a reward of some sort be it financial or social.. leading to sex, procreation and ultimately creating a scenario where my genes are carried forth and prosper.