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I applaud the intelligent design afficianados for their challenge to evolution. It obviously needs it as there is still more to learn in order to solidify the standings of evolution, a concept that I personally believe in.
ID people are riding on the back of scientific theory that is in my mind not complete but the difference is that evolutionists are only working off of provable observations. As discipler stated earlier:
No, they should just teach what science observes. :)
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(Aug 2 05, 13:05)In my mind until science observes an 'intelligent creator ' the whole concept of ID falls apart and does not share the view of science of 'truth' by method of proof. ID pontifs say that we're complex systems that will work only if all the components operate at once and that you could not get such a thing from 'successive, slight modifications' Hence we're products of God.
But if we were to look at something like the internet which was a simple concept that evolved into something complex from slight successive modifications and something that is being used now for things that was not the original purpose including 'evil' another concept I don't believe in as it's too overly simplistic in nature to believe that something is 'evil' and something is 'good' as with the internet and nature it's a bit of both a bit chaotic but thoroughly self-regulating.
As we know what some of us do with computers is considered to be 'magic' by others. They don't know how it works they just turn it on and it works. These same people would look for a simplistic reason for something because they want to look no further and instead of actually learning or keeping their mind open attribute it to 'God' or a 'PHP Developer' because well.. it's just easier.
We are ultimately animals with the ability to abstract and rationalise our instincts and cruelty to others. There is no 'plan' for us and for the world as most religious people would have us believe. We just have the ability to think that there is and ultimately it usually comes down to the selfish motivations of out breeding other creatures and competing for resources just like every other animal has to do. Just because we're able to write books about it does not make it any different.