Creationist Lies
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Unbelievable. And who is "Mr. Mayo" anyway? Ok...
1. MACROevolution is indeed garnering criticism in the scientific community and this is evident thru the numerous "response" articles being published in the various periodicals and it is evident by the media coverage we are all quickly becoming privy to. Whether you want to call say it's "in crisis" is or not, well... that's subjective. The fact is that progressive scientists who are objective about new discoveries are questioning the old ideas about origins. Call it "propaganda" til you are blue in the face... doesn't change what is actually happening.
2. I.D. is NOT Christian. There are general Theists, Jews and even Muslims I.D. scientists. You are confusing I.D. with Creationism. The only connection is that both question the Darwinian explanation of origins and species to species mutation. Fact.
3. This is a complete argument from silence. Go back and review every article I've linked from Trueorigins.org, AIG, and IDeasociety.org, most of these are extremely thorough in their treatments of the issues being discussed. Go ahead. The challenge is to you to demonstrate where one of these treatments is "saying the opposite" of what it is demonstrating. By the way, http://www.trueorigins.org was created as a direct response to the misinformation on TalkOrigins.org.
4. We are actually speaking of the so-called "Nebraska Man" tooth. This is when an ‘ape-man’ and his family were confidently reconstructed from what turned out to be a pig’s tooth. I'm aware of no documentation saying this issue was a "hoax". Would be happy to look at your evidence though.
5. I.D. and Creationist proponents do not contend with the fact that there are survival instincts in species and the related failure and extinction of certain species. And this is consistant with the scientific law of Entropy. This does not demonstrate a lack of design, rather it demonstrates a fallen world wherein creatures have had to battle for their survival. If anything, it harmonizes with a Creationist view of origins. We believe in adaptive mutations due to environmental conditions, but do not believe species to species mutations, which science has never observed.
6. Here are a few of the PHD's of prominent Creationists and I.D. proponents:
Jonathan Sarfati (Creationist):
B.Sc. (Hons.) in Chemistry (with condensed matter and nuclear physics papers substituted)
Ph.D. in Spectroscopy (Physical Chemistry)Dr John Hartnett (Creationist):
Ph.D. in Physics. PhysicistDr Don Batten (Creationist):
Ph.D. Botany/Plant TaxonomyDr. Carl Weiland (Creationist):
Ph.D. in Medicine/SurgeryDr. Michael Behe (I.D.):
Ph.D. Biochemistry (Professor)William Dembski(I.D.): Professor, Conceptual Foundations of Science, Baylor University; Ph.D. Philosophy, Univerity of Illinois at Chicago; Ph.D. Mathematics
Jonathan Wells(I.D.):
Ph.D. Molecular and Cell Biology, UC Berkeley; Ph.D. Religious Studies, Yale University.These are just a few out of the many, of course.
Impressive, eh? Now, please produce for me the lies they have told and be specific, MrMayo.
Oh yeah, I'm that discipler.