Learning SEO
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- OctopiStimuli
Any good sites like Treehouse.com that teach SEO?
- sureshot2
probably.
- noneck0
Holy shit, I need to learn this. My clients are starting to demand these services, and since I can't do it, they look to outside firms.
I have a client who I charged $6k to redesign their site on WP. They hired an SEO firm who's charging them $18k in the first year for SEO. And every time I deal with them, I hear shit that doesn't sound right. So I google it, look it up on forums, and find out that they're full of shit.
The problem I have with learning SEO is that everything starts with this really rudimentary lessons about HTML and how Google works. So I try to find something a bit more advanced and end up with stuff that's beyond me.
Anyone have some good checklists?
- Exactly noneck, have to add it on to my up skills list for 2017OctopiStimuli
- holy shit $18k? I'm under charging like a mofomoldero
- time to dump some clients and raise that shit upmoldero
- Yeah, I was on the conference call with them when they talked about rates. There was a big upfront and monthly fees of $1000 for one year.noneck
- you're probably not aware but as seo is very competative and transparent your seo company is most likely putting a lot of effort into defensive seo...trooperbill
- ..meaning if it gets independently audited its clean. otherwise the client gets bombarded with calls pointing out sometimes insignificant 'gaps' in the SEOtrooperbill
- It's the monthly costs that are the killer. Nice cash flow for some companies.formed
- same as any other marketng company - nothings cheap and you get what you pay for,.trooperbill
- zaq0
- PonyBoy1
didn't trooperbill have a thread where you could ask him anything on SEO?... I can't find it... :/
- trooperbill0
moz.com but with all of the above remember one thing - best practice will get you nowhere fast and in a lot of cases its a case of do what we say not what we do as pretty much every seo company on the planet games links in one way or another... and trust me you're going nowhere fast without a large number of 'good quality' links.
if you have any specific questions just ask.
im a technical seo manager at a top uk digital agency.
- trooperbill1
SEO Checklist - 1
Only 1 version of home page - check http https www non-www index.html, index.htm index.php index.asp index.aspx default.php default.asp default.aspx etc as well as rogue urls sub domains and demo sites that cause the home page to be found multiple times. a scan with screaming frog will find them on-site (depending on site size), copying and pasting a block of text from the home page into google will find the others.
301 every variation to the home page url given by Google (including with or without trailing slash) and set the www or non-www preference in webmaster tools by registering both versions and in one profile setting the preference.
elete or add a robots.txt file disallowing all robots on any sub domains
and if home page content is duplicated site-wide edit those pages. for duplicate content listing on 3rd party websites re-write your home page text to be unique.
if you want more let me know.
- OctopiStimuli0
Cheers trooperbill!
Very helpful. Most of the websites that I'm working on will be newly developed so looking to get them up googles ranking as best as I can.
Is the best way of quality links on industry respected sites (say the NHBC for Building/Construction Property Developer) the best way of getting up the list.
Alt tags on images, are they useful / necessary? If i don't include them will they not show up on Google images?
Many thanks for your help.
- trooperbill0
links - in theory yes but tbh the topical relevancy of the site doesnt matter as much as the topical relevancy of the page so you could find an awesome site about clowns and write a property piece on how clowns find it hard to transition from carnival life to bricks and mortar homes and it would do as well.
alt ATTRIBUTES (bugbear - there is no <alt> tag) - yes for topical relevancy of the page too
- Hayoth0
Correct me if I am wrong but this is my understanding of SEO.
1. Optimize your website with phrases and keywords people are using to find whatever service you are offering.
2. Optimize your images with tags and descriptions based on the keywords
3. Do some code monkey stuff for social media tracking
4. Write blogs based on phrases and keywords people are searching and tailor that content to defining and solving a problem.
5. Create supporting content on social media channels linking back to your website and custom landing pages defining the pain points and problems you solve
5. What else?
- bottom line, have an honest website. Don't try to outsmart google, you'll lose._niko
- 6: Profitmoldero
- architecture, latent semantic index, mobile first, conversion, instant answers, microformats, internationalisation... the list goes on and ontrooperbill
- Basic understandingHayoth
- bklyndroobeki0
lynda.com has a good amount of videos to get you up to speed.
I work with an SEO specialist, it's something that fascinates me.
- _niko0
it seems to me that SEO in its heyday was a bunch of douchebag snake oil salesmen trying to game the system by any sneaky underhanded means necessary.
Today, SEO is more about undoing their shittiness, which Google cracked down on, and trying to have as honest and clean a site as possible.
- trooperbill1
<sarcasm> @_niko yeah right links dont matter every awesome site will rank #1 for a kick ass phrase just by having 'good content'</sarcasm> #sameoldidealisticbsivebeenliste...
- trooperbill1
sorry about last nights post but i get the snakeoil argument all the time. this is my liveleyhood and pays the mortgage and puts food on the table. so i tend to take such comments very personally as ive been doing this the right way since the 1990s
- I think that's my point, it used to be about gaming the system now it's about doing it the right way. ie no shady practices._niko