Flat Earth

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  • zarkonite1

    And the plot thickens...

    "Flat-earthers don’t believe in trees. They’re merely puny remnants of their massive, mountain-sized predecessors."

    https://qz.com/1627048/why-flat-…

  • whatthefunk5

    How the power lines at Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana, USA simply and clearly show the curvature of the Earth. I assume they don't make each tower smaller and smaller as it extends out into the ocean...

    • did you check it out by yourself? :)renderedred
    • <fuckwit logic>
      Yeah, but you ASSUME, don't you?
      You don't actually KNOW, do you?
      </fuckwit logic>
      Nairn
    • lens distortionmonospaced
    • aha, rendererered got there before meNairn
    • camera lenses are curvedGnash
    • really bad photoshoputopian
    • really good photoshopmonospaced
    • There's no perspective on a flat plane?deadsperm
    • just a DeepFake thingyKrassy
    • Rumor has it fishes are constantly being electrocuted.Maaku
    • deadsperm nailed it.imbecile
    • there's perspective, but not such thing as a curving perspectivemonospaced
    • < great photo though.jaylarson
    • it could be turing right to create that curve.imbecile
    • the is is round because the earth is round, not because of this bullshit conversation.imbecile
    • *leftimbecile
    • 'shopped... fake news...pedromendez
    • You know, my flat-earther friend decided to walk to the end of the world to prove it’s flat. In the end, he came around...whatthefunk
    • wide angle lenshotroddy
    • are those 5G towers?ernexbcn
    • I like how this is the top post as if we proved something important.yuekit
    • This will piss off utopian ocasio cortezHayoth
    • SHOPPED!pango
    • could just be going downhill?BusterBoy
    • There are no hills in flat earth. Them peeps don't play around. The world is basically Paper Mario.deadsperm
    • @BusterBoy, the surface of the water IS going "downhill" at exactly the same curvature of the spherical planet Earth.monospaced
    • Can you draw me a diagram?Nairn
    • how can water go downhill? isn't water always level?renderedred
    • *surface of courserenderedred
    • Fucking water, how does it work?deadsperm
    • @renderedred, yes, it's level, in relation to the curvature of the earth and gravitational pull of coursemonospaced
    • Yeah, but how do you know?Nairn
    • because it's been provenmonospaced
    • What has?Nairn
    • holy fuck stopmonospaced
  • dbloc3

  • wagshaft0

  • yuekit0

  • utopian0

    Birther's and Earther's Unite!

  • dbloc0

    This guy seriously has no debate. He just rambles, If you're trying to convince someone at least get scientific.

  • PhanLo1

    Recent trip to the Highlands turned up this beauty in Inverness.


    Had a look through the guys Flickr, it was serious mental health problem bingo. http://flatearthhighlands.org

    • well thank god this website is 98% vegan!mugwart
    • I still believe the whole flat earth "movement" thing is a psi-ops!mugwart
    • not enough blinky boxes on the sitedbloc
  • dbloc7

  • monospaced7

    Darwin Award finalist, "Mad" Mike Hughes, sets new launch date in attempt that will surely prove that his fundamental beliefs are actually a crock of stupid ass shit.

    http://www.iflscience.com/space/…

    • I want to believeutopian
    • If someone is this determined to prove the earth is flat, then his findings will only support his theory. No matter what he sees.dopepope
    • No way he comes back and goes 'Nope, definitely round'.dopepope
    • To be devils avo here, he's built himself a rocket ship to test his theory where most people just use google (or look to the horizon!) I wont say break a leg!mugwart
    • lol, okay mugwartmonospaced
    • That thing definitely looks like it could achieve its intended purpose.detritus
    • https://www.youtube.…Fax_Benson
    • Lol mugwart. You jokin right?fadein11
    • The man is a fool with way too much money/time to throw around. If I was his child I'd be both ashamed and angry in equal measures.fadein11
    • mugwart, globe earth fact was established thousands of years before google, and this guy has a hypothesis at best, not a theory.monospaced
    • I mean, do you commend an adult that sets a trap to catch garden gnomes or the tooth fairy, simply because they don't believe the fact they are fictional?monospaced
    • I'm only stating a "man" is free to do as he pleases and believes what he wants. All conforming in my humble view leads to oppression.mugwart
    • (he - is both genders before I get stoned)mugwart
    • lol, nobody said he can't believe it! you're acting like he shouldn't be mocked, which I wholeheartedly disagree withmonospaced
    • I don't believe the world is flat but I have seen things in my time defy belief. I was also ridiculed but as of last december the FBI admitted.mugwart
    • dont htink I'm working myself correctly. If a man wants to fire himself up into a rocket to see if the world is flat. He's taken the time to not only learn butmugwart
    • build it himself ... to be fair fucking A.
      Most of the world is going home and watching netflix. This guy has added a bit of colour (not ridicule) to his life.
      mugwart
    • We live in a time where freedoms are being taken away rapidly. So if someone wants to be or do - then be and do it.mugwart
    • If not mistaken Tolken belived in the hollow earth. We can laugh but look at his creation to the world. Look at the lives it has touched and inspired.mugwart
    • sure we can LOL but he was access to papers we are not and he is no doubt a genius and artist.mugwart
    • for me - flat earth is stupid but a belief I have might be laughed at by someone else. This leads to self censorship. For me that's a crime against life.mugwart
    • I'm waffling - but what if he flies up and proves it is flat (not expecting) this guy will be a hero.mugwart
    • but for me if he flies up and proves it then humans can put this to bed once and for all.... me hopes but hey!mugwart
    • another example - I was laughed at an humiliated for wanting to be a writer. my family did as we are doing to him. Last night was like the 5-6 oscar nominationmugwart
    • I have (stressing working in a huge team). Had I listened I would probably would have committed suicide if honest. Every night I feel a failure for not owningmugwart
    • a house, cause thats what was tried to be installed to me. Instead of me being me I have had to fight to be me... make sense?mugwart
    • sorry for waffle. I'd prefer to have a drink with a man whom builds gnome traps against the concensist of belief as it will be a lot more fun then most. IMHOmugwart
    • lolfadein11
    • why? I know I'm weird, that's okay but I don't think its okay to publicly humiliated cause they are different?mugwart
    • Referencing Tolkien makes no sense at all. Who cares if he believed in hollow earth? I’d make fun of his ass too.monospaced
    • Doesn’t change the fact that lord of the rings is epic. The relevance is nonexistent.monospaced
    • Also, I’m NOT publicly humiliating this guy. I’m talking shit about him on a forum. He’s humiliating himself, and it is entertaining.monospaced
    • Finally, believing the earth is flat is quite possibly the most idiotic belief any human has ever had. :)monospaced
    • But when this dumbshit launches, I'm gonna watch, if only in hopes of seeing his genes erased from the pool forever.monospaced
    • I dunno guys, I only trust science from people whose name starts with "Mad".garbage
    • jesus this current trend of people not believing anything due to some from of conspiracy or programming is embarrassing. it's great to question things of coursefadein11
    • but defending morons and utterly idiotic ideas just makes you look stupid.fadein11
    • form*fadein11
    • I think this guy looks stupid enough, but defending him only drags you down with him. Get a grip, it's 2018 for fucks sake.Ianbolton
    • In fact, to give people like this a safe space to do these things is fine, but to protect their ignorance is fucked up. Give them all the shit in the world!Ianbolton
    • Be nice to everyone, weird or not, but clearly question/debate/have a rant at this guy for doing the most stupid thing ever.Ianbolton
    • exactlymonospaced
    • im probably not explaining myself. I am about to drop with exhaustion, I'm not saying not question this guy ... I guess I'm extremely sensitive to ridicule.mugwart
    • to be fair @Ian your probably right I am being dragged down with this guy. This isnt my belief at all. I just really respect personal free through.mugwart
    • I was sort of saying let this guy be the modern day Icarus as his karma.
      I am in desperate need of rest and I am burning out at work.
      mugwart
    • Mono - do as you will!
      I'll get some rest!
      mugwart
    • you seemed impressed this guy is going to risk his life to question an established fact, which is funny in itselfmonospaced
    • look, if I drove to this guy's house and started harassing him, then maybe you could accuse me of humiliating him .. but that ain't happeningmonospaced
    • TBF, I think that alone and of itself is a fairly admirable intent. It's just a fucking stupid thing to decide to challenge.detritus
    • ANYWAY ... back to the point: mocking this fucking retard: he isn't even allowing peer review on site. No spectators, no science, nothing. What a moron.monospaced
    • I mean, this is the kind of asshat that insists there is a conspiracy about round earth, but won't allow anyone to witness his own research. Opposite of sciencemonospaced
    • I agree with above. If it is science then he should be open to all. Live web feed etc.
      I just don't llke the assumption that he's moron because of norm
      mugwart
    • also to stress, he is a man of age he is free to do as he pleases. I also mean that in his death. If he wants to do this... fuck it I think I'm just arguing mymugwart
    • own exhaustion.mugwart
    • ALSO TO STRESS: nobody said he isn't free to do as he pleases. I AM ALSO FREE to say he's an idiot, with MORE confidence than he has that earth is flat.monospaced
    • you are free as well. Good point but you sort of inflict your free will on someone else's free will. To be honest the world is really bring in me down &mugwart
    • I'm just sick of all this internet finger pointing.mugwart
    • You are insanely confused. My will is not being imposed on anyone. This stupid fuck will never hear my opinion.monospaced
    • I agree with mugwart. Idiot or not, respect for actually doing something. Maybe he'll help put the idea to rest.set
    • "Any drone flying near the private property will be shot down" sounds like a right cunt though ..set
    • You too? He didn’t do anything! He could have easily taken a day hike and gone to a higher elevation. Or even take a flight. He didn’t do anything.monospaced
  • DRIFTMONKEY0

  • face_melter7

    The absolute mad man did it!

    https://www.independent.co.uk/ne…

    • 1,800 feet. Wow.monospaced
    • Why couldn't he just go on a normal plane?PhanLo
    • So what was his conclusion?utopian
    • He could have gone on a hike.monospaced
    • lolfadein11
    • well at least he's flatfadein11
    • guy makes the world slightly more interesting! Seems he wants to build another rocket... sort of fair play to him!mugwart
    • we're living in the onion timelinepinkfloyd
    • what does that even mean, “fair play to him?” he didn’t even go as high as a hmskyscraper, or a fraction of a commercial flightmonospaced
    • I’ve done day hikes that are higher altitude. This guy doesn’t add anything to the world doing this stunt. Just another moron being a moron.monospaced
    • lol monofadein11
    • He has a belief and did something to prove it. Regardless of my belief (world is not flat) I respect people that do things even against ridical.mugwart
    • He didn’t do anything to prove the earth is flat, btw. Fucking lolmonospaced
    • “He also plans to run for governor of California.”
      ide laugh but then i remember when i laughed at trump running
      GuyFawkes
    • It wasn't about proving anything, It was in doing something you belive is why I said fair play to him.mugwart
    • It's not about my belief, nor is it your belief but someone trying to prove their belief to themselves.mugwart
    • lol, but he didn’t even come close to doing that, and only hurt himself. I mean, there’s nothing redeeming here ... at allmonospaced
    • With all due respect, the dude is 61 and made a manned rocket and it didn't explode. What did you do today?shapesalad
    • Another "natural blonde" attention whore.utopian
    • Respect!! Haharobotron3k
    • Elon musk has competition... https://youtu.be/QRZ…robotron3k
    • lol @ shapesaladpinkfloyd
    • lol @ mug...fadein11
    • "it wasn't about proving anything..."
      erm
      fadein11
    • god I wish i had time and money for these kind of insane hobbies.fadein11
    • insane kind* ughfadein11
    • rich people can get eccentric with their free timepinkfloyd
    • I managed to not almost kill myself trying to prove how stupid I am.monospaced
    • @fade, I meant me saying fair play wasn't about him proving his belief to me. It was about him doing something about his belief.mugwart
    • erm... it was steam-powered, people. think about that for a sec.hans_glib
    • lolfadein11
    • mugwart, FFS, AGAIN ... nobody is saying it isn't "fair play" or whatever that bullshit saying means ... they're saying he's a fucking IDIOT for tryingmonospaced
    • while I get your sentiment that he's acting on his beliefs and that might be respectable, his beliefs are moronic, and his act was life threateningmonospaced
    • would you respect someone who killed themselves eating tide pods because they BELIEVED they would give them super powers? no, you'd call them an idiotmonospaced
    • I hear you. I'm not on any high horse here. I was just responding.mugwart
    • I havent commented on his IQ, I've held back my opinion on that but I belivie people have reign over that. If someone wants to do that then let them do that.mugwart
    • if they want pods to regain super power let them. As long as their actions dont hurt others. Do as thou Will I guess.mugwart
    • Guy built a rocket, sort of cool. Mad, very.
      I like it when people go against the grain. True I prefer it when people do it in art/music form
      mugwart
    • but hey in this day and age I'll take what I can get!mugwart
    • here's the footage.
      https://www.youtube.…
      dbloc
    • damnit mugwart ... if someone dies eating tide pods, there's someone being hurt, and it's not just the guy who diedmonospaced
    • and this has nothing to do with IQ ... he could be a smart guy, but even entertaining a flat earth is fucking retarded, and you know itmonospaced
    • ;-)mugwart
  • utopian0

    Flat-Earther's Second Rocket Launch Attempt Sputters Out

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/flat-…

    • damn.dopepope
    • should've..
      https://www.youtube.…
      https://i.ytimg.com/…
      detritus
    • The nozzle on the actuator got blown back a few inches and could turn you into a skeleton and 300 or 150 pull shoots okay? I’m only one guy.monospaced
    • show us da proofz mad mike!GuyFawkes
    • 'inches'
      This is some Wile E. Coyote shit right here.
      face_melter
    • better luck Monday!mugwart
    • I’d bet $1,000 nobody there had any idea what he was rambling about. Not even him.monospaced
    • something about getting some people in jail ... not sure why though.
      something about a Charlie Manson's guitar as well... do I get a $1000? Want a tattoo!
      mugwart
    • I only trust mad scientists, and especially if they pronounce "Monday" as "Mondee". The earth is flat, y'all.garbage
    • what the hell is happening here?notype
    • hahah @garbage, I heard that too. "Monee, but I'm gone be in court"notype
  • dopepope2

    Why can’t we see stars tho, for real?

    • Simple. If you expose for a bright object, like the earth, all dark objects are lost. Same thing with your night photos.monospaced
    • waaitasec mono this is the moron thread.
      easy pope: because it's raining.
      sted
    • Oh right. Well this is all made in cinema 4d and the exposure on the rendering engine was set too low to allow the dim light to show up.monospaced
    • Sucks because the modelers at spacex hoax headquarters spent a lot of time on the particle system and the computers to handle billions of points of light.monospaced
    • And they’re pissed because in the final render none of it even came through.monospaced
    • how are bright spots in the sky dark objects? (not Flat-earthing, I just dunno about camera exposures)dopepope
    • They’re not really that bright. It’s not complicated. Go try to take a photo of stars with anything visible in the foreground and report back.monospaced
    • lol. stare at your bathroom light while having a shit, your tagnuts will become invisiblefadein11
    • Loldopepope
  • imbecile4

    Read the comments

    • Yeah. That vid. And those comments. There's an awful lot of stupid out there, apparently allowed to roam free and open their mouths.Continuity
    • oh wait, so now space x is part of the millennia old conspiracy?monospaced
    • Dumbification of Muricautopian
    • i think all those fuckers are trolling, ain’t no one that dumbGuyFawkes
    • Oh they’re that dumb for sure.monospaced
  • Bennn0

    - How thick is the Earth?
    - Is there people living on the sides?
    - Whats under the disc?
    - Why have we never heard of the other side of the disc?
    - Why there's no videos or pictures or any other litteracy about the edge of the disc and the other side of the disc?

    • not seen dark city ;-)mugwart
    • I believe (admit from tiny exposure to subject) they believe its just a wall of ice or something.mugwart
    • - 8 inches
      - No there isn't (sic), they would falls (sic) off
      - A turtle shell
      - It's unpopulated, therefore silent
      - Because nobody has gone there yet
      NOTNOTORAZAL
    • # stupid answers for stupid questionsNOTNOTORAZAL
    • lolBennn
    • if the disc is 8 inches, how can my basement be 8 feet in the ground. BAM! BUSTED MUTHFKR!Bennn
    • I guess you've never done anal.NOTNOTORAZAL
    • 8-20 miles thick. Space around disc. No space travel = no other side. No pictures of edge because secret military for over 5,000 years guarding it.monospaced
    • Simple answer: earth is not flatmonospaced
    • lolBennn
    • The earth is not float but dinosaurs never existed. what WHAT!!robotron3k
    • what are you talking about now, robo?monospaced
  • robotron3k-3

    I'm kinda back on the roundish earth shape, but when I went to look for detailed map images in the interior of Antarctica all the images are heavily blurred/censored out. It seems none exist. Then I start wondering about a flat Earth again...

    • In my mind I visualized your IQ going up to 59 before the comma, then dipping back down to about 42 again after as I read that.kona
    • quite literally thousands of high res photos of the interior, in a simple google search:
      https://www.google.c…
      monospaced
    • It's to hide the pyramidsflashbender
  • mugwart-3


    not a flat earther here but to be fair I respect them for actually getting off their arses and doing something.

    • rapists rape, that’s doing something too.GuyFawkes
    • Mugwart... your an enabler....pango
    • Respect? That's funny.monospaced
    • ^^ hope that's a compliment ;-)
      Can you imaging if accidentally convert QBN to be flat earthers...
      mugwart
    • They need to learn to profile the lens and apply lens warp to make the image distorted. Once that has been done and done well - you can know exaclty what is lenmugwart
    • s distortion and what is curvituremugwart
    • and @mono - I do respect them. I dont know if the world is flat or not, I cant go to space. TO be honest the world is fucked flat or not and there are moremugwart
    • important problems in the world. For me its deforestation, pollution and health and self spirituality being drained by cooperate cunts.mugwart
    • For me this is the same as Hiilery Vs Trump. Both are/were terrible for the world.mugwart
    • Belief is personal, belief should be explored and questioned and not insulted. These guys DID do something to prove their belief.mugwart
    • What would be fucking cool is if people didnt fucking ridicule people for questioning authority and what if they took their findings to open forums & questionedmugwart
    • Again not a flat eather but this ridicule we all inflict on people is from our education & social peers that is controlled by the powers above.mugwart
    • I'm an anarchists, let people be people. Respect them for it. That way we can stop being sheeple and start fixing the fucking mess we are inmugwart
    • (I'm not on a soap box!)mugwart
    • tis the season for a good ole rant!fadein11
    • yeah sorry! I just growing up being the weird gothic kid I sort of defend people with different beliefs!mugwart
    • @mugwart, if you don't know that the earth is a sphere, then you have problems, I'm so sorrymonospaced
    • it's not a personal belief issue, either; there's no room to respect anyone who entertains such a moronic view of the worldmonospaced
    • these guys did nothing to prove their belief ... all they accomplished was to make themselves look even more stupid, and they deserve to be insulted for itmonospaced
    • because, let's face it ... you've got to be one dumbshit, mouth-breathing, conspiracy theorist, moronic motherfucker to even ENTERTAIN a flat earth theorymonospaced
    • ^ Chill Winston!
      People can believe what they want. They can question what they want. I believe the world is round. If people want to question thats okay.
      mugwart
    • I am "conspiracist" and I think this is another distraction. I hate the way the world is so linear in belief and so closed minded. We are lied to all the timemugwart
    • To be fair you don't know either as you haven't been to space.mugwart
    • I'm not saying they CAN'T believe it. I'm saying their belief isn't valid, in anyway, or in any way equal to "believing" the earth is a sphere.monospaced
    • Oh, and to be fair, of fucking course I know, and I don't have to have gone to space to know it. That argument is stupid AF.monospaced
    • If you think the spherical earth is a conspiracy to distract, then you're a lost cause.monospaced
    • I'm not a lost cause. I work in a science department in a film company. I can do my own shoe laces up fine. My argument isnt if the earth is flat or not but howmugwart
    • and why we think we treat these people so badly.mugwart
    • I believe the earth is round (and I do) only because I have been taught as such. These guys dont. Instead of just whining about it they built their ownmugwart
    • experiement. What the fuck is wrong with someone trying to prove something already established. These guys arent hurting people but getting a lot of shit thrownmugwart
    • I just dont know why people are so ingrained to hate when people speak out about something differentmugwart
    • Just dont like bullying regardless on which side of the fence I'm on.mugwart
    • fair enough, but secretly, we all know they're stupid as fuck, and really, it's NOT bullying if we're talking about people we don't know, on the internetmonospaced
    • nar - its bullying! It is stupid but so was how hitler came to power. As is the fucking shit we see in the world right now. I get peoples rage, just see itmugwart
    • aimed in the wrong placemugwart
    • I'm not aiming it at anyone. I'm saying that flat earthers are the most stupid motherfuckers on the planet.monospaced
    • If nobody feels bullied, then it's not bullying. lol, there's no good that comes from flat earth theory spreading. none at allmonospaced
    • Let people believe what they want to, let people explore what they want to. Personally I like the romance of a spherical earth!!mugwart
    • the earth is not flat, you fuck.
      feel bullied yet?
      imbecile
    • no because I dont believe it is! I just hate the hate thats going around this momentmugwart
    • also if you read above you knew I dont subscribe to this theory you fuck!mugwart
  • BaskerviIle0

    So do flat earthers believe that just the Earth is flat or do they think that all the planets and their satellites (and the moon) are flat too?

    Or is earth flat with a spherical moon floating above it, and somehow changing phases all the time? Is the sun flat too?

    Or do they think that all of space and the stars etc are just made up?

    I find it hilarious these crackpots with their terrible home made experiments and long rambling videos explaining they hole-ridden 'theories'. At the same time, the lack of respect in science, the scientific method in these people is worrying...and the biggest irony is that they're using the internet to publish their theories. Literally the medium they are using to communicate disproves their point.

    • Just the earth. Everything else is round.monospaced
    • the internet is awash with such drivel and people have become v.rich and famous peddling such nonsense, Google Sandy Hook if you want to see how low they go.fadein11
    • Flat Earth has only got so much attention because it is a more fun kind nonsense, it doesn't involve dead children or people jumping out of skyscraper windows.fadein11
    • would make sense if they think the moon is flat as we only see one side of it!mugwart
    • they don't think the moon is flat, they don't even think it exists ... it's just a picture of a moon, projected on the dome, OBVIOUSLYmonospaced
    • I think this movement is gaining traction only because it upsets everyone elsedrgs
    • this is the way religion works doesn't it? blindly believe nonsense because everyone else does even though it's totally illogical._niko
    • ^ i odnt think thats how religion works.
      ^^^ they dont think the world exists?
      I dont even want to search for that
      mugwart
    • yeah, it's a part of how it works ... people believe in religions because everyone else around them does ... that and threatsmonospaced
    • That doesnt sound like relgion - it sounds like cattle thinking. You could the same about most things today.mugwart
    • not reallymonospaced
    • I disagree!mugwart
    • post people I know have replaced "religion" with "science". i hear all the time - I don't believe in anything but science. I mean what the fuck does that meanmugwart
    • I feel sorry for you.monospaced
    • its okay most people do!mugwart
    • But seriously. It MEANS they believe in the process of figuring things out, aka the technological and knowledge progress man has made in the millennia.monospaced
    • It means taking other people's word for things...set
    • Quantifying and explaining everything, as if this magical, unfathomable reality can really be explained.set
    • It's another way to keep people's minds in chains. Locked in the science matrix. Nothing is magical and I know everything. lol to thatset
    • They defend logic and science to the teeth, too, like it were their religion :)set
    • Yes set, very good, it does rely on established knowledge in order to keep progressing. It’s that very mechanism that defines the scientific method.monospaced
    • And yes, you’re right, there’s much that can’t be explained (yet). But almost entirely through the sciences, mankind has expanded that knowledge.monospaced
    • Nobody is claiming “science” has the answer to everything. It’s the sciences through which we discover answers and refine (question) our understanding.monospaced
    • This is exactly why we know the earth is a sphere, and have for centuries. If the same rigor of the sciences was applied to flat earth, it would be disproved.monospaced
    • At a certain point, you must take others words for things. Certain things progress from hypotheses to actual working theories. Finally laws.monospaced
    • Gravity is a theory. It’s been proposed, and verified, over and over. That understanding helped take us beyond the solar system through voyagers travels.monospaced
    • Without that trust, we wouldn’t progress. It’s why we trust our aircraft and the laws of aerodynamics. Why we trust modern medicine to save lives.monospaced
    • So science simply is the process of figuring things out. There are bumps along the way, but it’s what has got us to where we are today,monospaced
    • Religion doesn’t do anything like that. They aren’t remotely comparable in my opinion. Have a great night.monospaced
  • set9

    • somebody build a rocketFax_Benson
    • so good!oey
    • i knew it!Beeswax
    • Not even close to being a good comparison, either, as the camera would have to be about a thousand times smaller...set
    • ... and the ball would look even flatterset