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- Morning_star0
I expect it would have been nice to at least have the opportunity to listen to propaganda, lies and bullshit peddled by the antivax movement and then ignore it. However...
"..only 50 per cent of children in Ukraine were fully immunised against polio and other preventable diseases last year, according to the WHO."
- question would be who manufactured? and oral form doesnt bypass normal immune functions, prob safer.yurimon
- yurimon-6
Is this scientific which watercraftry? can someone translate please.
- Morning_star1
Some mythbusting and good advice.
- dbloc0
Family to Receive $1.5M+ in First-Ever Vaccine-Autism Court Award
- that's a decade oldmonospaced
- oh my bad. didn't look at the date. Never actually heard of this case.dbloc
- "...vaccines aggravated an unknown mitochondrial disorder Hannah had which didn't "cause" her autism, but "resulted" in it."ETM
- if you look into the case, there's actually no connection between the vaccine and autism, and that isn't why they were awarded damagesmonospaced
- "The compensation of these two cases, thus does not afford any support to the notion that vaccinations can contribute to the causation of autism."monospaced
- formed0
This is not black and white. I don't know why people cannot agree that there are gray areas in this debate. It's not all or nothing.
Truth: Vaccines have saved countless lives and are necessary part of living on this planet for the foreseeable future
Truth: Vaccines have caused significant disorders and diseases. Most dr's and scientists don't really know why.
My neurologist gave held a panel discussion and this was one of the questions. His answer was this: "Yes, they help, yes, they have caused diseases, Yes, we have no idea why, Yes, you should do your own research and make your own decisions for yourself and your children."
That's all there is to it. That's not even getting into the billions and billions that are made on "new" vaccines, various agendas, etc. Just look at the flu vaccine. It's horribly ineffective (CDC has it at 48% for this year, yet people assume if they get it they won't get sick. That's slick marketing making a fortune and on one is calling out "misleading advertising"). On the flip side, if you are in a high risk field it's probably a very good thing to have.
No absolutes. Humans don't know much and we fuck things up, only to admit the errors generations later (antibiotic epidemics anyone?).
- What gets me is the main culprit in the vaccines that seems to get the blame is in 100's of over the counter products - so how can it be pinned on vaccines.fadein11
- Don't know what you are referring to. The issues I am referring to are directly connected to the vaccine.formed
- so bizarre to hear you say the flu vaccine is slick marketing when it is given to older people in the UK free of charge.fadein11
- antibiotic epidemics were caused by the food industry mainly, and silly GP's dishing them out for colds. But to blame something that has save millions of livesfadein11
- because of how it was mistreated afterwards is a bit silly.fadein11
- Obviously I am not blaming antibiotics. It's exactly what you said, which is what my point is.formed
- sorry yes.fadein11
- lol at free of charge. You don't think someone is getting paid for it? DERPset
- sorry I forgot you dislike the NHS lol. Burn a homeopathic candle, put some glitter on it and smoke a spliff to rebel ;)fadein11
- but always remember your magnesium supplement because we are all low on it. Like those supplements aren't a fucking racket haha. Tit.fadein11
- Triggered againset
- You need more magnesium and less TV.set
- Dr Set's ordersset
- I have a rather stubborn hemorrhoid that needs either removing or pushing back up - I hear it's your speciality. Can you help?fadein11
- BusterBoy1
Bullshit. The only way vaccinations work is the herd effect. If you have a significant percentage of the population refusing to vaccinate, they just don't work properly.
Give me a tiny possibility of a side effect over the very real chance of getting polio any day thanks.
Makes me sick this "do your own research" garbage.
How about we round up all the anti vaxxers on an island and see how that works out for you.
- I blame David Wolfepango
- it's not going well in Eastern Europe.fadein11
- That's your choice. Don't tell me what to do to be part of the "herd". I'll do my own thinking, thank you.formed
- You must love paying taxes.pango
- the internet really has opened up a dangerous can of worms where everyone considers themselves an expert and a lot of genuine experts who have devotedfadein11
- their life to a field (mostly not for personal gain) are being pushed aside. Worrying times. There really isn't a grand conspiracy. Big pharma does need wayfadein11
- bigger regulation for sure. Oh the word regulation - thats a swear word now isn't it. Govt control = conspiracy. Yep v.worrying times.fadein11
- ^ Yes. That's why I found in interesting what my neuro said - he's a very well respected specialist, not some GP w an 'opinion'formed
- yep cant argue with that. Its a horribly difficult topic. but when it comes to MMR/Autism I say bollocks.fadein11
- post truth world, idiots often have the same reach/power as genuine experts. It's like the death of knowledge. Scary.fadein11
- it's on both sides, no different than politics that attempt to make everything black and white - there is always an agenda and rarely is the truth so simpleformed
- fyi, just the flu vaccine is a $4 billion market. That's a hell of a lot of incentive. Not saying the v is good/bad, but that is part of the equation.formed
- 200 million missing an airfield in Syria last week - its peanutsfadein11
- sorry - I am ranting - its late here - I appreciate everything you have said (and in a nice way)fadein11
- 'do your own research' garbage Hahahaha. What a cunt.set
- do ya own research lol - you have a lab to do trials over many years on many people? nope I will just believe a made up story I read on the internet and spreadfadein11
- it around like you are an expert but you aren't - you just read an article on the internet lol.fadein11
- you are like a British middle class bearded Alex Jones sometimes. pratt.fadein11
- well, if anyone cares, I could post a scientifically proven example, but just like politics, I am not going to sway someone that has their mind made upformed
- I'll take the side of science and my neurologist, a specialist respected across the world, but that's just me.formed
- was talking to Set - the resident expert on everythingfadein11
- but what do I know - QBN's 'small brained cunt'fadein11
- lol. Triggered.set
- Lol. Spouting shit you read on a shit website amd then claiming to understand an issue. Fuck magnesiun, you are deficient in life experience lol. A total prattfadein11
- lol so triggered. Also full of half witted assumptions. Blessset
- what does triggered mean? ;)
these silly theories spouted about with no real evidence is v.dangerous and the results are now being seen in Eastern Europe.fadein11 - oh how I cringed seeing all of this remembering the Set vs fadein11 wars of 2017. Christ.fadein11
- You take yourself wayyyyy to seriously hahaset
- fadein113
"Hey antivaxxers, how many people get autism from eye drops, nasal spray, ear drops or makeup?
Antibiotics for the Eye
Cortisporin® Ophthalmic Suspension
Neosporin® Ophthalmic Solution
Nasal Preparations
Nasal Moist® AF
Neo-Synephrine® Pediatric Formula, Mild Formula, Regular Strength, and Extra Strength Nasal Spray
Ear Preparations
Coly-mycin® S Otic
Cortisporin® Otic Suspension
Pediotic® Suspension
Cosmetics
L'Oreal® Miracle Wear Mascara
Stagelight® Mascara
These all contain thimerosal, here are some of its other names:
Sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate
Mercurothiolate
Merzonin
Mertorgan
Merfamin
Ethyl (2-mercaptobenzoato-S) mercury sodium salt
Thiomersalate
Thiomersal
Thiomersalan
[(o-carboxyphenyl)thio] Ethylmercury sodium salt"- It's been shown, time and time again, that the preservatives in vaccines don't cause autism, which is the stance of the biggest autism group on the planet too.monospaced
- ^ that's just your opinion :)Gnash
- :)monospaced
- sofas-8
I don't think the film speaks out against vaccines on principle, it only calls for transparency, choice and responsibility (like others have voiced in this thread). Unfortunately nowadays that is tagged as anti-vaxors (I assume by pharma propaganda)
- This film is directed by Andrew Wakefield, That fact in itself should give you enough reason to relegate this to dangerous bullshit.Morning_star
- looks terribly directed/ made.mugwart
- The title alone is anti vax, from where I'm sitting. Subtitle implies conspiracy and intended injury. It's not just calling for transparency. It's fear mongerinmonospaced
- sofas-4
this post and documentary are not against vaccinations, but promoting skepticism towards pharma corporations.
automatically rejecting vaccinations and automatically labeling anyone who is critical of vaccination practices is equally dumb.
many merely advocate better practice. care more about people's health than corporation's profit.
"A powerful international investigation of the global pharmaceutical industry.
Every year, many new drugs come to market which offer hope to the sick and dying. They also bring billions of pounds into the coffers of the pharmaceutical industry, making Big Pharma the most profitable and powerful business on earth. Two years in the making, this film investigates just how far drug companies are prepared to go to get their drugs approved; what they will do to make sure they get the prices they want and what happens when profits are put before people."
- The problem your labeled anti science for questioning things. For me there is a massive difference between science and cooperate science. So much money is mademugwart
- and they have not only the RnD but the safety checks. In these days of extreme corruption I dont find it to hard a fetchmugwart
- yup, these corporations have so much power that it calls for more transparency and democratization to keep things in checksofas
- yeah they're not testing vaccines on these kids.sarahfailin
- right @sarah, just like I said. but would you fully trust a vaccine that came from ppl who lie like that?sofas
- Vaccines slow profits ffs.monospaced
- _niko3
Haha love it. I support these religious wingnuts, the faster they all die off the better.