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- pr20
I'm with George on this one.
Little secret is that i used to be a conservative republican - i would come up with all sorts of reasoning why what i "believed" in was correct - i would even this logic. So i can understand the mentality of those on the right. Sadly, it needs to be said that, it often comes out of ignorance (willing or not). The more i would read, the more documentaries i would watch - the harder it was to confirm my "believes" to the world around me. You collect enough information and facts that you have to face up your own BS.
As G pointed out, at some point the systems operating here are banally easy to comprehend. Yes, if you get to a top spot you ARE a psychopath or ARE on your way to become one. Period. Look into ANY history book and you will see examples proving just that. So in essence i fear more the industrial complex (as one of the multiple choice questions given above) than any of the terrorist groups, and yes i fear more the top brass in the military than any of the terrorist leaders. For once the military guy has more toys at his disposal and also has LAW behind him. Again, not that every top guy up there is a psychopath but basic behavioral science teaches you how quickly people relinquish moral responsibility for their action (in case you are curios it's as little as one step of separation - did you ever wonder why there is guy giving commands to the execution squad? i hope you didn't speculate it was so that they nicely fire at the same time...).
- "twist logic"pr2
- unfortunately human nature requires leaders and leadership. so its important to have rights in a society that can help keep thatHijoDMaite
- help keep that power in check and accountable. such as the press and freedom to gather.HijoDMaite
- we can't just lose hope and say we are doomed.HijoDMaite
- no one is saying that. i'm saying that knowing that THEY want to manipulate you all the time - don't let them as much as you can/are willing.pr2
- as you can/are willing.pr2
- ":unfortunately human nature requires leaders and leadership."
NOPEcannonball1978
- benfal990
and its a question of time before US citizens, Canadian citizens or British citizens come back from those training camps and makes terror attacks once back home.
Invisible ennemy and crawling ideas are much harder to destroy than an army of 2 milions soldiers.
All that leads to NSA scandals, CIA wants to catch threats in the egg. But people don't want the gov. to check their stuff. How can you stop normal people from doing terrorist attacks? It's like winning lottery.
- you are the most scared individual I have ever had the chance to meet online, no offense of course, you really don't deserve to have that so called freedom, if you are eager to relinquish it as soon as someone says BOOH.. :(GeorgesIV
- don't deserve to have that so called freedom, if you are eager to relinquish it as soon as someone says BOOH.. :(GeorgesIV
- it looks worst than it should, i'm not that bad Georges ;)benfal99
- I swear if shit hits the fan, I'll keep you a seat in my ark :)GeorgesIV
- thanks! :D
i already feel betterbenfal99 - Swedes have already flown down and joined ISIS. Who'd thunk it :)Peter
- benfal990
the problem with them, it's not like fighting one specific country, it's a phylosophy, a way of thinking, a sect... people from all over the World are joining their rank.
It can be easy to fight a country. It's a lot harder to fight ideas.
- benfal990
I'm so fuckin tired of extremist islamists! I feel it's non stop since 9-11
I can't understand how people can reach a level of hates and violence of that order towards other humans. Islamist that want to destroy the Western world. I'm so tired of 'em.
Life is so short, why do they waste so much time hating in the name of a religion.
Obama was right, they are a cancer.
- and like cancer, they grow more powerful and reach farther...hate is a powerful, and easy, motivatorformed
- And like Cancer, can be taken out with a diet of wild berries.detritus
- Don't insult cancer it you will get banned.monospaced
- Ramanisky20
the reason I asked about the Foley video is because I remember years back when the Daniel Pearl video was made public that something seemed very fake about it.
- maybe because we see so much fake killing in our everyday entertainment?monospaced
- perhapsRamanisky2
- yeah it looks so green screen but most people won't watch it though, just a single frame is enoughGeorgesIV
- Its more on how the video was edited .. It wasn't a single take is what I meantRamanisky2
- inteliboy0
The modern world has leapt forward in an incredible way over the last 10-20 years - yet we have these barbaric morons holding the human race back. That is exactly what they are doing, and it's such a cluster fuck of history where all sides are to blame. These bickering stubborn children will never move forward. Rape, kill, murder and plunder on a mass scale seems to be the best option for oue evil human species time and time again. My only hope is not in government, but in corporations and technology, in $$$ and communication, paving the way to progress. Though even then the military is highly privatised, and the real deal fat cats up the top don't give a shit about "us". So the cycle continues. Man. Such a mess.
Also the older I get, the more I hate religion. I'm a believer. But only see false profits, egotistical posers and war mongering fuckwits controlling the masses. Religion needs to die. Spirituality needs to awaken.
/rant
- epic_rim0
I watched a beheading video one time. NSFL, it haunted me for days and days. I'm not sure what purpose it serves, to make me hate or fear? Maybe Queer Eye for the Straight Guy would have the same effect on ISIS?
- the James Foley one?Ramanisky2
- no, an older one.epic_rim
- Me too. Im still traumatizedbenfal99
- If it's the one of the Russian soldier in the woods .. That one still gets me even just thinking about itRamanisky2
- set0
I can't watch it. I saw the still of him kneeling there on the front of a newspaper yesterday and even that really affected me. Surprised myself a little bit as to how affected I was by just seeing his face.
I saw one of the beheadings years ago. Never again.
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Inthink we all saw that video, the old one... After 9-11benfal99
- renderedred0
if you take into account that the inception of hammas was supported by the israeli government and that previously the Mujahedeen and now ISIS are actually CIA trained, well...
- and, yes forgot that Bin Laden was CIA trained too...renderedred
- was?? look who benefited from the latest war, I believe at the uppel lever, they are still commanded by the same peopleGeorgesII
- forcesGeorgesII
- It's all about money anyway, so thanks America :)renderedred
- people forcesset
- OBBTKN0
Istanbul Ataturk airport attack: 36 dead and more than 140 hurt
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-eu…
Here we go again... Hope you Beeswax and relatives are ok, mad times :(
- sted0
And now:
Writing this from hungary, one of the many european countries where you can still see some refuges get lost while trying to move to the west.I was volunteering for a team called Migration Aid at the time when the first wave of the european refugee crisis started.
We supplied food to the train station where thousands of people waiting to get in to Germany. The Hungarian government builds a real dictatorial system (i don't want to get in to this now). So they started campaigning against the immigrants and almost everyone who isn't Hungarian. That's one of the reasons why guys like drake-von-drake can't find real articles about how we handled the fuckin' flood of people marching though our country.
(I can tell some funny stories how an anti-democratic system works in cases like this... like traveling people across the country and telling them at a small border village that they arrived in Germany :)I had a certain concept how this shit started what we call ISIS. But I wanted to hear from the people who are actually from that region. Talked to many folks from Syria about their previous lives and what they hope is going to happen. One thing was the same in all of thees stories: Everyone expected that some sort of rebuilding is going to happen in the region after the Iraq war. So they can start getting rid of the radical religious groups. Which will help on all fronts to stabilize the region. But that help never came, and the rebuilding never started. Everything just got worse. And now half of the globe calls them terrorists, their religion is equal to ruthless violence in the western world.
And not a single one mentioned the US as their savior. Actually they are pretty much desperate why everyone wants to fight on their land, but not for them. At this time Russia just started to play its part in this great party. While they where PR-ing against the Nato at home, and trying to destabilize the EU they where fighting with the US in Syria. And more and more people came to Europe...
Wile the two provoke each other, there are lots of people without a country hang around in the region... without prospects, and hopelessly.
Here's a photo just for drake (that's a brand new station,
It was opened three months before this pic was taken):
- Thanks for the insight. No one is trying about stabilizing the region, they just want to get rid of them.Beeswax
- Evidence for what?sted
- That number isn't dropped because of the fence :)))) it was pretty much well orchestrated they finished it at the time when the flood began to decline aahahsted
- and the eu started to send money to turkey to hold off the immigrants :)sted
- Merkel started sending money to turkey in october, and tried some shady promises, the €3bn in every year what they get, now that works :)sted
- €3bn deal was carried out in November by the EU.sted
- the most disgusting thing is the fact that the Hungarian government started campaigning in June just to provoke people. they know what's going to happen in May.sted
- knew :) started spending a shitload of money on ads. on our money, just to keep us, informed about how dangerous outsiders are.sted
- Weyland0
Mentioned in the comments in the last post, the Rambo III movie ... times were different
- nb0
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- ernexbcn0
El Chapo tells ISIS his men will destroy them
- how he would do that anywaysBen99
- so who exactly did el chap email? he has ISIS' email address?Gnash
- info@isis.comBen99
- sup@isis.comBen99
- yo@isis.comBen99
- halla.snackbar@isis...Ben99
