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- detritus0
Yup, and using Cold War era striker-bombers that need at least a full in-air refuelling cycle to do the task, flying as they are from Cyprus, then jutting around the North of Syria, via Turkey.
And we're supposed to be impressed by this.
It's ok, when we have the F35, things'll be so much more efficient.... no, wait, they won't. Not at all.
- ApeRobot0
Breaking news*
ISIS declared "...when ebola virus will enter the middle east caliphate , it will be converted and renamed has "Hezbolla virus"...". #Shariaforeveryone
- HijoDMaite0
- Go Batman.detritus
- I agree with Ben in that most people in those countries just want to wake up, work, eat supper and kiss their kids goodnight without worry of bullets or bombs killing them.ETM
- goodnight without worry of bullets or bombs killing them. Pray, read scripture and I doubt they are thinking of killing the infidel.ETM
- infidel with every waking moment. I don;t think most ever think that.ETM
- That said, I am totally repulsed by the way some aspects of the culture treat females. But that is changed by empowerment, not weapons.ETM
- weapons and foreign boots.ETM
- Pompous twat. Remind me why we listen to celebritys?matnz
- agreed. ben wouldn't let harris talk.hotroddy
- yurimon0
- operation human shieldWeyland
- Big Pun?HijoDMaite
- Megamanomg
- pablo280
ISIS = ISRAELI SECRET INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
- formed0
Couldn't believe the R's are using ISIS in spam propaganda adds to oust the D incumbent here in CO. Fucking ridiculous shit.
Then he goes and makes an anti-R add about how tough he is on terrorism.
God I hate election season.
- BusterBoy0
That Ben Affleck clip...he totally misses the point Maher and the other guy were making.
- agreed.organicgrid
- This.matnz
- no he didn't, he was right on the money pointing out B.M.'s close mindless parading for liberalismpr2
- ukit20
I think he understood the point, he just didn't agree with it. 1.2 billion Muslims in the world and a tiny number are fanatics.
Sam Harris likes to push his theory that Islam inevitably leads you to a violent worldview but I think it's too simplistic.
- Seriously fuck sam harris, he will push his islamophobic views everyfuckn day but never criticize what israel or the us does, just like war monger hitchenGeorgesII
- does, just like war monger hitchens who was so pro irak war, now thanks to that we have a fragmented middle east and supposedly isisGeorgesII
- supposedly isisGeorgesII
- matnz0
Let's also remember that both Maher & Harris openly criticise all other religions. Their criticism of Islam is just 'current' but both have been very vocal in their assessment of other religious lunacy over many years.
Harris' main point, which is correct, is that criticising the unfounded religious ideas of Islam does not make you a racist or an Islamophobe.
- futuremongolian0
Harris and Maher rarely criticism judaism and Israel. They routinely criticize Islam and muslims. It's a bit tiresome.
- hotroddy0
^ for those who think Sam Harris doesn't criticise christianity. He destroys it.
- hotroddy0
To Harris's point how is 90 % not mainstream? In Egypt 90 percent of women are mutilated and circumcised.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ev…
The way Ben conducted himself during Harris segment was annoying. He wouldn't let Harris speak and just got upset and started to raise his voice without making any valid points.
- BusterBoy0
Obviously a small percentage of Muslims engage in extreme acts. It's the other attitudes...intolerance of gays, those who dare to change religions, repression of women's rights are some of the attitudes that are present in a sizeable portion of the muslim population.
- ukit20
I think you have to look at the culture that is creating these views. Religion is pretty much a blank slate that you can justify anything with. Within Christianity, you can have the Spanish Inquisition and also Martin Luther King, so what does any religion really stand for. People can believe the most ridiculous shit and live completely normal lives.
Someone like Sam Harris or Hitchens, who I mostly agree with otherwise, will say that Islam is inherently worse than Christianity and Judaism but he's ignoring the social and political aspects that create extremism.
- what about the social and political aspects that enslaved the blacks and displaced the indians?hotroddy
- you don't see them blowing themselves up in public or beheading headshotroddy
- Seriously? People have been great at killing each other throughout history, it's nothing newukit2
- A few examples:
http://en.wikipedia.…ukit2 - That may have happened to the first generations of indians but you don't see that today.hotroddy
- That's because the Christian settlers pretty much wiped out an entire race of peopleukit2
- Central and South Americas pop is 90% native. Take Mexico for example - the majority of them are Indian mix - colonized by the spanish.hotroddy
- spanish, and Natives have made great political strides over the centuries without having to blow shit uphotroddy
- True, but it took centuries for them to reach that point.ukit2
- All I'm saying is that all kids of people and religions are capable of horrible actsukit2
- Some of the stuff in that Wikipedia link makes ISIS look like Gandhiukit2
- agreed. And isis is behaving like they were from another time.hotroddy
- but hotroddy, who created and financed isis, as long as you don't want to answer this question, you'll have a void in your povGeorgesII
- GeorgesII0
why are we always going back to discussing religion,
when the only reason there's so much shit in the middle east is outside western powers toppling secular "presidents/dictators"irak >> saddam >> secular as shit >> muh wmd >> freedom from the sky >> now a fuckn failed extremist filled state
lybia >> kaddaffi >> secular as shit >> muh killing innocent/ giving viagra to rape women >> freedom from the sky >> now a fuckn failed extremist filled state
siriah >>assad >> secular as shit >> muh killing innocents rioters armed with ak47 >> lets give weapon to the fsa >> fsa is alqaeda >> fighter become isis >> now trying hard as fuck to make it an extremist filled state
iran >>mossaddegh >> secular as shit >> muh oil >> let's finance some disturbance in the force >> now ?? islamic ?? repressive ?? state >> still let's rain freedom from the sky because nucular weapon
egypt >> secular state >> muh arab spring >> let's support the muslim brotherhood >> 2 years later >> effective police state controlled by armyDo I have to keep on going, why is sam harris and his ilks never discuss the facts that all moderate secular islamic states are destroyed and the worst of the worst are installed so that some powers can keep the petrodollar saga going
- hotroddy0
My Theory is:
Muslims are proud people. During the 8th and 9th century it looked like islam was going to take over the world.
The last 500 years the West has made great strides and have been encrouching on Islam (ie. culture, geo political influences, etc)
In the last 20 years we've seen a surge of Islamic radicalism.
It is my belief that the internet has been the fuel to this fire. Muslim men go online and can bear witness to secular values (ie. 90% of the world). They see out of control materialism.. Not to mention the 1000's of website of women getting DP like it's as routine as having breakfast. . All the meantime they have to keep their women in beekeeper suits. They don't feel good about it and they justify their actions since it is THEM doing GODS work ridding the world of such behavior.
- Why are you putting the 2% vocal radical muslims with the 98% of other muslims that just want to be left in peaceGeorgesII
- lol, I can totally see radical muslims getting inflammed because of the "milf thread"GeorgesII
- milf and chick of the day, and probably most of the threads on here. But yes, I'm only talking about the 2%hotroddy
- internet porn = rise in jihadhotroddy
- comon, don't you see you view is fuckn simplistic, they get bombed daily, but it's internet porn that radicalise them, not having family members blown to pieces, gtfoGeorgesII
- blown to pieces by smart bombs, gtfoGeorgesII
- I don't even know how people can accept that we bomb them, then when they get radicalise, it's religion's fault or porn, pleassseGeorgesII
- your theory is rubbish but you are entitled to it.fadein11
- I agree. You spend a decade of having your friends and family blown up by 'smart' bombs and tell me you wouldn't wage your own personal war.ETM
- own personal war against the party doing it.ETM
- And even then, it's still a majority. Sadly so many more peaceful people have to accept it as the new norm.ETM
- *majority, I meant minority.ETM
- they were blowing shit up before 'smart bombs' and before we bombed for a 'decade'hotroddy
- their culture is threatened. And they don't want their kids nike hats and girls wearing tank topshotroddy
- beekeeper suits LOLHAYZ1LLLA
- omg0
The Islamic culture is a dedicated God loving world. The Gentiles have given up their land to people who control their media and financial institutions so that they can serve them better. We are ruled by money and blind lies. We are more violent than any small radical group as our military has weapons of mass destruction. Then again, we are not our military. They too, the children of our country are brainwashed by evil who serve for a paycheck, to feed their families back home. Why do people fear Islam? We do not serve a higher God anymore. We only serve the master whom we have become their slaves. They hold the eye of God, and that strikes fear in the hearts of people whose values have already become corrupt.