R.I.P. Philip Seymour Hoffman
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- oey0
@ marychain
I always imagined you, because of you're name, as a fan of Jesus & Mary Chain.
That you were into post punk and heroin in the 80's but you're survived all that flamboyant shoegazzing dark side in the 90's and managed to finish you're degree in the middle of such a rollercoaster of emotions, ocean of drugs and sexual roulette.You destroyed the image I had of you!...
- That is pretty accurate. I'd offer that the shit I have seen leaves me with little sympathymarychain
- And I care little for your image of me. I know what I'm aboutmarychain
- Looking back...I don't romanticize it...and I don't feel sorry for myself...but you gotta own it.marychain
- And you have to better yourself or don't have kids...that is what I'm sayingmarychain
- I'm not suggesting that maybe he chose heroin over his kids...I'm saying he undeniably didmarychain
- And I feel bad for them. I'm sorry he didn't make it...but we have to live with what we domarychain
- If that makes me an asshole to you...then I accept that...but my opinion is just as valid as the nextmarychain
- To suggest otherwise is hypocriticalmarychain
- he's a red sox fan... that automatically makes him 50% perfect :)PonyBoy
- dbloc0
- seymour looks smarter..yurimon
- Einstein looks happier.freedom
- trueyurimon
- einstein looks like he gets laid.zenmasterfoo
- utopian0
I am headed over the "Yellow People :/" thread were fun lives, sup Pango!
- nahhh i'm hanging out with white folks nowadays. http://www.qbn.com/t…pango
- yurimon0
$100 says that heroin came from Afghanistan.
- http://www.globalres…yurimon
- Praise be to Allah!moldero
- would heroine from another place make a difference?! your statement is irrelevant.pango
- Columbia is bad too.freedom
- pango, you follow news or historic actions of war n such. hell yeah it makes a difference.yurimon
- so if he had heroine from another place, he wouldn't have died?pango
- it makes no differencemonospaced
- monkeyshine0
This is a great response to the "selfish asshole who chose drugs over loved ones" statements:
- But did you read the comments?detritus
- yeah. I think sometimes people want to believe the world is more black/white than it is.monkeyshine
- freedom0
Never met or knew him.
- utopian0
death bump!
- ernexbcn0
RIP
- utopian0
"Large amount of heroin, several prescription drugs found in Philip Seymour Hoffman's home, two law enforcement sources say."
- Ramanisky20
Hard Eight > Paul Thomas Anderson
- yurimon0
some fancy footwork there for police..
- CygnusZero40
He was a great actor. Doesnt mean he wasnt a weak scumbag. He obviously was. Any parent who has any heart and strength in them would not let this happen. Big deal so he can dance around in front of a camera. Still a piece of shit that left his kids due to an addiction. Sorry no excuse for that, ever.
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_niko - LOL! I guess you don't understand addiction. Don't act cunty Cygnus!74LEO
- I do understand addiction. Its rough, I know. But fight it off or be looked at like a weak cunt that left their kids.CygnusZero4
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- eoin0
"Hey! Stop having cancer, it's bringing us all down!"
My two cents: addiction is an illness, as much as chronic arthritis, or cancer, is an illness. It's very hard to fathom, especially for those who have never been addicts themselves. From the outside it seems like a simple choice: either continue to ruin your own life (and the life of everyone who loves you) or stop. Just stop doing whatever destructive thing it is that you are doing. How wonderful were it that simple.
But it's not like that and who knows how many lives have been lost because of demonisation rather than compassion for the addicted. Hope for the addicted will only improve will when he, or she, is seen as sick, rather than depraved, or worse, selfish.
I live with the consequences of demonising an addict. My older brother was a heroin addict for years and the easiest (or most logical thing for me at the time) was to detest him, to blame him for his illness and cut him out of my life and do other, countless dispassionate things to him. In my mind, it was his fault.
Four years ago on a sunny afternoon in high summer, I found him dead, "a needle sticking out of his arm". My brother who I had grown up with, shared the biggest belly laughs I've ever had with, the person I shared my childhood with.
Since then, it hasn't been easy. I could say it has kind of ruined my life, but that's just me being selfish. I can still feel the sun on my face, breath air, smile, laugh, love, etc. He can't. He lost his battle with addiction, and while he was battling it, I had nothing but disdain for him.
There hasn't been a moment since then where I haven't regretted how I acted. If I had just had a little more compassion, given him more time, helped without enabling, been there for him in his darkest times, he might still be here today and I might not be carrying a huge trauma around with me, but my trauma is nothing in comparison, I'm not the one who died. I miss him dearly. We all do.
- Deeply sorry for your loss. I have a strikingly similar story...but quite another take on it. Agree to disagreemarychain
- sorry man, that's roughmonospaced
- Cheers, monoeoin
- My twin brother has been battling depression and bipolar his whole life, and has been lucky to have great supportmonospaced
- but the suicide threats and possibilty of drug problems are always there, and I choke up just thinking about losingmonospaced
- losing my brother.monospaced
- so truly, I really do hurt for your lossmonospaced
- Thanks mono, I know it's very hard to feel like you are watching helplessly from the sidelines, but I'm sure even your hope and positivity for him, as intangible as it might seem, makes a difference.eoin
- positivity for him, as intangible as it might seem, makes a difference.eoin
- oi shiet. mono... sorry for kind of made fun of you and your brother in a way before....pango
- thanks eoin, I will call him to talk and he'll know that I am still theremonospaced
- bogue0
^ My father struggled with addiction. Does that make him a "piece of shit". Unfortunately, I don't think things are that black and white.
- +200000CALLES
- Things are easier than we make them.marychain
- i kind of agree w/ marychainohhhhhsnap
- well i'd have to disagree. It's not as simple as taking a stance and saying he was a piece of shit.bogue
- he did shitty things but was a great man. If that's not a grey area i don't know what is.bogue