RIP FlashForward
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- nb0
Hombre_Lobo: "If someone chops a tree down using a nail file, is the result better than someone who used a saw?"
Your argument isn't considering the actual situation.
If Apple let Flash run on the phone, it would kill the battery (and maybe overheat? There's no fan in a phone!) and everyone would have kept buying Blackberries because the iPhone would have had shitty battery life. This is because Flash can often be (not always, but often) a resource hog.
It takes a lot of careful calculation and precision to release a mobile phone that is more expensive, nearly a decade behind in public adoption, PLUS is missing one of the most widely used technologies on the web, and still have that phone succeed. Not only succeed but essentially eliminate the competition.
Pretty impressive move for Apple. So what if we took a step back in terms of the functionality of the web? Two steps forward, one step back. It's the way progress happens.
- kind of agree apart from the eliminate the competition BS.fadein11
- Frosty_spl0
I went in 2008 and had a blast.
- zaq0
NMUF anyone?
- CyBrainX0
^ Or Steve Jobs told everyone this so he could prevent people from developing sites that would take his App Store revenue away. We never saw Flash on iPhones. I don't think this was a problem on Android. Also, we're talking about 2008 when HTML5 was no where. Not that it's significantly better now. If Flash continued to develop it's mobile side do you really think it would still be a battery drain?
- so you admit it was because Adobe didn't continue development... therefore you can't blame Applemonospaced
- CygnusZero40
I thought FF ended years ago.
- So did I. I went around 2003. It was an honor and quite fun.CyBrainX
- mg330
I went to NYC 2001 and had an awesome time.
- Was there too.CygnusZero4
- they gave us (balthaser) tickets in '01, then took them back, they hated usmoldero
- ernexbcn0
@CyBrainX if it was so great on Android why the fuck did Adobe discontinued it? they gave up man. Face reality and move on.
- They gave up because the writing was on the wall with Apple.CyBrainX
- That's total bullshit Cy... it was ONE PHONE, that's it. If Flash was good on mobile, it would have found a way to work.monospaced
- There were hundreds of phones that wanted it, and millions of users. Adobe fucked them all.monospaced
- Continuity0
It's almost 2014, and there's a thread debating the merits of Flash again?
- sine0
the should change the name to FlashBack. lol. get it? FlashBack...
- PonyBoy0
:(
- nb0
So, should I keep my Flash MX Bible on my bookshelf? Does that make me cool or lame?
- animatedgif0
Almost 2014
Amazing open web technologies that integrate with regular HTML seamlesslyand people still claim that we were better off with Flash controlled by 1 company who outsourced everything to India and stopped caring or even trying to improve their software years ago.
- SteveZissou0
^ Yeah almost TWO DECADES after the release of Flash we can now do *almost* the same with HTML&JS
- Not even almost. You hardly ever see anything that looks close to what Flash did easilyCyBrainX
- I'd say it's far surpassed it nowanimatedgif
- uuuuuu0
I don't think "google bomb" mean what you think it means,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go…
but yeah RIP
- ive said 'google bomb' for years... i dont know why..freakpelican
- pinkfloyd0
Had fun watching praystation, yugop, presstube and others.
- boobs0
I really think Flash is the best solution to many, many problems on the web. You get the layout and the fonts you specify with Flash. No other technique does those things, really. The only real problem with Flash is that it's not supported on some of the mobile platforms, and that is what killed it.
The HTML5/CSS techniques are not "better" by any stretch of the imagination. Frankly, they aren't nearly as good as Flash. There's an exception, in some browser, to almost anything you try to code with HTML5/CSS. Just about anything you put out is going to break somewhere, some time.
Flash had much better cross-platform consistency. Google had figured out how to search the content, so it works for SEO purposes. Flash was golden until Steve Jobs got a stick up his ass about Adobe.
- Flash is the Betamax of today; superior but not fully supported.ideaist
- Idealist that's a great analogy.Hombre_Lobo
- Not really. Boobs has it completely right. The war is just over. That skinny bastard won.CyBrainX
- totally not true - do more surfing.fadein11
- You can't blame the underdog phone for killing flash.monospaced
- doesnotexist0
flash is the reason we have "best practices" for "where and how to place your navigation menu" and other equally exciting topics.
- tbf, that's more to do with that rancid cumnugget, Jakob Nielsen.detritus