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- scarabin1
http://journal.sjdm.org/15/15923…
A paper that some may find scientifically illuminating: "On the reception and detection of pseudo-profound bullshit"
The paper gives a working definition of bullshit, details 4 experiments carried out on the ability of participants to detect pseudo-profound statements (i.e "Wholeness quiets infinite phenomena" or anything from Deepak Chopra's twitter feed), as well as how receptive participants were to accepting such pseudo-profundities, and based on this data, gives an interpretation as to what mechanisms underlie a person's ability to detect bullshit, or conversely, accept it as truth. The study finds that people who ascribe profundity to bullshit statements are more likely to believe in the paranormal, more likely to accept conspiracy theories, and more likely to endorse alternative medicines.- ugh I was hoping it was a science paper. kinda of a survey.yurimon
- were you in it?drgs
- A survey is scientific.monospaced
- Survey is mostly political. they set the desired parameters. You could do this with any group you want to target.yurimon
- I was hoping this would disprove something scientifically. real science.yurimon
- of course yurimon is defending bullshitscarabin
- a political poll is still data, yurimon, and data is the basis of any scientific approach. derpmonospaced
- You can label parameters any way you wish in data collection. I would love real scientific on biased research not a survey to disprove, big difference.yurimon
- Not exactly. You can interpret data in different ways to show a preconceived bias, but the data itself is inherently unbiased.monospaced
- not if you start with bias in the parameters. If it started with first disproving the actual parameters with solid science, or proof. not thesis, or theories.yurimon
- this survey just basically shows peoples preference, its as scientific as netflix recommending you movies.yurimon
- you're making very vague, sweeping statements that make you look like you haven't even read the article. read it and cite specific flaws in their method.scarabin
- if you feel there are biases, point out specific examples. if you feel they are interpreting the gathered data incorrectly, cite specific examples.scarabin
- right now you're just making knee-jerk, emotional statements based on a feeling of being threatened.scarabin
- I read the paper. I'll post it for you. I didnt highlight what I thought was wrong so I'll reread it for you. ok give me few.yurimon
- I think what yurimon is saying is that those statements aren't bullshit in the first place. He actually considers it profound, and sees a bias in calling it bsmonospaced
- if that's the case, then we really shouldn't be discussing this with himmonospaced
- I'm not accusing the issue as bs. My question is a challenge of understanding, not only mine but all of yours. That is why I am asking what would be the basisyurimon
- of you supporting bernies solutions or anybody elses in this issue. what is the history of this in fact to lead to current crisis. its not an over night thing.yurimon
- oops wrong thread. hahahayurimon
- No what I got out of the paper is that they laid a ground work of parameters of what they consider bullshit. they described what they think is bullshit asideyurimon
- random generated messages. its doesnt disprove paranormal activity with science like i was hoping. they just said if you believe this your more likely to believyurimon
- this idea.yurimon
- its a fucken survey.yurimon
- so yeah, you're right mono. he's literally defending the bullshit itself. lol.scarabin
- cats, defined as not cool. Dogs defined as cool.
q: do you have a cat? a: yes
q: do live alone a: yesyurimon - conclusion, people who live alone are likely to be not cool.yurimon
- conclusion, yurimon believes the bullshitmonospaced
- I like how scientific the word truthiness is. lol good job science report, for using a term claimed to be coined by Stephen Colbert.yurimon
- maybe this more of reading comprehension test. slash survey.yurimon
- your inability to comprehend humor is another matter entirelyscarabin
- Im engaged in humor by entertaining the verisimilitude in the structural accumulation of words inputted and displayed on this device.yurimon
- it is only logical that I engage in successive, rhythmic, spasmodic expiration.yurimon
- that's grossscarabin
- http://img.pandawhal…scarabin
- still waiting for the analysis, yuri, where you show the biases in the test parameters, and your explanation on how theses and theories aren't part of sciencemonospaced
- scarabin0
- the "motherboard" is barely even a PCB, and it's got all these pins going to nowhere. below image isn't even egypt, it's teotihuacan. 1,762 likes.scarabin
- lol. my gf loves this kind of stuff. i have to be careful letting the air out of any of it. sometimes it's better to let her believe.sarahfailin
- "I want to believe"pango
- dreamcatcher induced dementiaWeyland
- uan0
Experiment Reveals the Quantum Secret to Superconductivity
While the detection of a quantum critical point does not definitively answer that question, “this has really clarified the situation,” said Subir Sachdev, a leading condensed-matter theorist at Harvard University. The finding knocks several proposals for the electron-pairing glue in cuprates out of the running. “There are now two prominent candidates for what’s happening,” Sachdev said.
- uan0
free energy from water
- guy is playing pretty fast and loose with the facts here. if he can generate electricity from water, let's see it! if he can desalinate water passively letssee!sarahfailin
- he is presenting the result of his research, not selling you a new battery.uan
- utopian2
Are Humans Significant?
It would take something travelling at the speed of light 91 billion years to get from one side to the other and that's just the bit of the cosmos that's visible to us.
- uuuuuu1
- God...I love this stuff.utopian
- guy looks and sounds like walter whitesarahfailin
- awesome vid. neutron stars clearly got some esplainin' to do.sarahfailin
- utopian2
18 Billion Solar Mass Black Hole Rotates At 1/3 Speed Of Light - Universe Today
- Light weeks? Sure, why notterry_cloth
- .25 light years would have worked.sarahfailin
- Morning_star0
It appears that a fair amount of 'science' is bullshit.
"He also looked at a number of well-regarded medical research findings, and found that, of 34 that had been retested, 41% had been contradicted or found to be significantly exaggerated."
"By some estimates, at least 51%—and as much as 89%—of published papers are based on studies and experiments showing results that cannot be reproduced."
- It's not bullshit. Science is in a constant state of evolution and the fact that 'science' is looking at this means it's on the right trackIanbolton
- It is. Scientists make lots of shit up and publish it. < Just read it. And if you want further reading look at the current crisis in psychology research.Morning_star
- I'm not arguing that the scientific method is under question. But the 'peer reviewed', 'published experiments' etc has clearly fallen foul of ego and dogma.Morning_star
- Cripes, i wonder how religionist texts would fare where the same tests are applied?detritus
- *weredetritus
- Are you suggesting that religionist texts contain rigorous research methods, peer reviewed results, transparent data and repeatable evidence?Morning_star
- It's fair to say that the retesting and contradictions, which were ultimately corrections, were, in fact, just more scientific process in action. Not bullshit.monospaced
- As i said, i'm not criticising the scientific method. I'm questioning HOW (when the scientific method is adopted) there is the amount of 'wrong stuff'...Morning_star
- ...published. Science should be transparent and agenda-less, it obviously isn't.Morning_star
- Big fucking surpriseset
- the amount of bullshit in science is too damn high!drgs
- Have to say science is problematic on many levels. The main issue is in the adoption post research, absolutes DO NOT exist in nature. Good scientists know this.fadein11
- Einstein died knowing this utterly broken. Our small minds have not evolved enough to understand the universe anything beyond the rudimentary. So certainfadein11
- members of the scientific community should perhaps behave with less arrogance. That being said as a methodology it's has proven v.effective.fadein11
- It's all about the incentives where there is intense pressure to produce a result...look at the researchers in Japan and South Korea that simply falsifiedyuekit
- major "discoveries."yuekit
- "science", "the scientific method", "scientists", and "the science industry" are all completely different thingsscarabin
- science has always been a high % of bullshit. Over time, doing more science proves the bullshit science wrong and then it stars again.Fax_Benson
- we thought this but it was wrong, so we've smashed up the lab and destroyed all the telescopes.Fax_Benson
- Agreed, science is flawed, but it's the best we got.drake-von-drake
- deathboy-1
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I doubt i even need to read the article. I saw one with the same premise about a month a go. Sent it to my sister who sent me an email about her new pricey blue light wave eyeglasses that she paid a price premium for. Trying to reinforce her purchase choice by sharing and thinking it was a good thing. Explained how i worked on a pitch about two years prior based on some pretty flimsy "research" that was turned into marketing. I recently saw wired run an article about some ford head lamps based on the same "science". I will say marketing as science is great for a positive placebo effect.
- scarabin10
- utopian2
- nice illos!!
"the earth is the ghetto of the universe" wait what?bklyndroobeki - "science and religions are after the same thing" that's something to think on...bklyndroobeki
- well... they might be after the same thing, but only one is actually moving toward itmonospaced
- the other just sits there, unchanged and stubborn in the corner, for thousands of years, pouting and insisting they're right without even leaving the roommonospaced
- nice illos!!
- bklyndroobeki1
I've been geeking out on Degrasse's talk radio show, loving their reaction to question @ 33:28
- bklyndroobeki1
- no... don't really need to ;)monospaced
- preaching to the choirdorf
- dorf inaccessible language? was thinking about getting it the other day.bklyndroobeki
- that's like reading a book about how Santa is not real.moldero
- IRNlun61
- this is so fucking cool, opens the door for landing on remote worlds where flat land isn't an option._niko
- also I'm guessing that when it lands it's secured in place somehow as to not topple over._niko
- didn't realize they had this in 4k, pretty impressive, it looks like it's balancing solely with the extended legs._niko
- looks like all their attempts have been in high winds/high seas too. seems like they made it as difficult as possible to pull this off.IRNlun6
- opens the door for landing in a location on this planet that isn't the original launch site, saving tons of resourcesmonospaced
- Drumpf4
You will absolutely never find yuri_von_cum_cloth in this thread except for trolling purposes only, well maybe not.
- stop giving the weird kid in the corner so much attention.inteliboy
- lolo, most morony ive ever seen in drumpf post. goes to science thread to troll about trolling.yurimon
- Morony? Shouldn't you be in the conspiracy thread proudly wearing your tin foil hat, or ranting about false flags in the politics thread? Talking about loony.Drumpf