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  • son_dey-2

  • dkoblesky0

    <soapbox>
    sorry - this topic is on the front page, election in a few days...

    I am not trying to be one of those 'I don't see color' people...which is dumb...but...I don't get identifying so much with the color of my skin that I will organize and vote for people who agree and even kill people over it. Make secret hand signals. Join secret groups.

    It is not even a philosophy of anything. It is just....white....good..

    I just don't understand identifying with it that much that it becomes the dominant force in my life. I have a really hard time getting that concept.

    I have lived long enough to know that people are either smart or dumb or nice or mean or criminals or not based on who they are, not their skin.

    And not understanding that what makes America great is absorbing all kinds of people and having them contribute to our society?

    I just don't get it.

    • wait a minute... you're talking about crayons or people? lol and you're spelling it wrong. its wight!son_dey
    • The reason is Identity politics and the social justice mantra that we should individually portray group characteristics, primarily race and sexuality.Morning_star
    • fuckoff roboSalarrue
  • PhanLo3


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    https://www.theguardian.com/news…
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    In May 2017, Demetria Hester was on her way home from work on a train in Portland, Oregon when Jeremy Christian, an avowed white supremacist, boarded and began shouting racist abuse. She says she told him to shut up. When they had got off the train, he threw a bottle that struck her in the face. The next day he killed two men and grievously injured a third. Demetria describes to Anushka Asthana how she felt the police responded to the incident that night and how she watched her attacker walk away without being questioned.

    Earlier this year, a court in Portland found Jeremy Christian guilty of two counts of first-degree murder and one count of first-degree attempted murder and sentenced to life without parole. But as the Guardian’s Lois Beckett tells Anushka, this is the extreme end of an ideology that has permeated all parts of US society, and that President Trump has repeatedly refused to condenm.

    As Americans go to the polls next week they must assess the record of a president who has professed to be the “least racist person”. His own Department of Homeland Security describes white supremacists as posing the most persistent and lethal terror threat in the country.

    • Fuck this guyfooler
    • This happened on my max train route, 1 stop before the stop I regularly get off at. If I would have left work 15-30 min later I would have been on that train.fooler
  • Gnash-1

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    • ???pango
    • ???utopian
    • Why confused? She lays out a good case hereGnash
    • She repeated it, and everythingGnash
    • If true. That is amazing.pango
    • They also didn’t have slaveryGnash
    • Wow much nicepango
    • is that because those native nations women had no western styled rights? Just walking fun holes for any males??? weird thing to suggest. ive seen duck rape.deathboy
    • I'm not sure. Plz find out for me.pango
    • Well, I’m sure she has 100% proof of this and it‘s on twitter then it must be true.NBQ00
    • i can't tell anymore. are they saying it as a fact? or a sarcastic joke? and the moment you comment on it, they go "it's a joke!. lighten up!"pango
    • She is serious. She’s a human rights lawyerGnash
    • She believes that colonialism brought at evils. Before that, life for First Nations was just a magical frolic through leafy glades.Gnash
    • i dont know man. all the asterisk over emphasizing. could be sarcasm, could be a bad joke. so hard to tell now a day. people use jokes to hide from criticism.pango
    • really annoying.
      i mean. are they trolling or are they stupid?!?! ugggghhhh
      pango
    • well pango look towards your ability to discern bullshit. hemingway nailed it as the most important tool for a humandeathboy
    • and look where he ended up.pango
    • lolmonospaced
    • < she is serious. Not trollingGnash
    • This is just not true.cannonball1978
  • utopian4

    Deathboy be sure to pre-order some swag while it's hot.

    • haha uh huh. question is if a group that accepts all ethnicities but must be prideful about nationalism is any different than LGBgayletters groups and theirdeathboy
    • pride. what is the difference of calling yourself an american vs calling yourself what ever gender defining term and having pride?deathboy
    • i find both types of groups equally silly. actually needing and grouping idea of pride and and what not. why i dont make a good sports fandeathboy
    • and my buddy sports fanatics hate me for pissing on there pride parades when i just dont give a fuckdeathboy
    • oh yea the ethnicities is to point out not white pride.. that project 1619 people associating when havin pride in nation must mean white supreme. tsk tsk mediadeathboy
    • lol that cheap garbage merch.sted
    • Lol @ the grocery toteben_
    • omfg deathboy nobody said it is wrong. We are mocking them because they’re idiotic, bigoted, mysoginistic uncle assholes. Like YOU.monospaced
    • Also if you can’t grasp how white pride is a racist movement and gay pride is a celebration then you are hopeless and should not breed.monospaced
    • No I can't grasp that mono. Explain how a pride is different from another pride? Perhaps your associations but that is not objectivedeathboy
    • Is white pride different than black pride gay pride cuban pride pedophile pride. Explain the differences because I see no differencedeathboy
    • I see pride based on born genetics. Strange to me to value differentlydeathboy
    • White Pride is based on separation and hurting others. Gay Pride is not. You're an ignorant fuck.ben_
    • By your definition. Like a religious zealot seeing gay pride as pushing unpure love and sexual kinks to confuse and cause harmdeathboy
    • But really by definition it's just silly pride both ways in weird identity politics and both are equal in value which is worthlessdeathboy
    • Why do see white pride different than black pride? Can u empirically explain a difference that makes one different.deathboy
    • Personally all pride is separation to anyone not involved. Why probably that kind of pride is considered a sin. If we all are brothered and sisters all arbitrardeathboy
    • Y pride left at the door. And Im not big on religion and it's collectivism. But can't say they didnt get anything right.deathboy
    • We aren’t making up the definitions. White pride is about superiority and is based in deep racism. The other prices are not that at all dude.monospaced
    • You keep implying that the differences end at the word “pride” but they only start there. This isn’t an opinion. It’s just reality.monospaced
    • fuck 'em https://www.adl.org/…imbecile
  • deathboy-13

    Confederacy pride is southern democratic party pride

  • deathboy0

    Lately I've noticed agendas toward "benefits of people of color". This use to be broadly based as minorities. However you see that word less considering the regression of "white" majorities in states especially by policy makers.

    Could it be policy like this that helps rile up the KKK types? Not many point it out of cultural fear of being called a racist. But an obvious agenda geared towards non-whites would call for some sort of reaction? We respond to past rules and hold those who , even violently revolted in high regard. Does such policy not strenghten the KKK like a black panther party?

    I hope people nip this in the bud before it spreads farther. Its division politics and only used by the worst most inept leaders. And yes lower case trump used it. Quite successfully even. We don't need worse crawling up his coattails.

    • 'Lately I've noticed' is rather anecdotal. Without examples of actual policies that specifically target whites in favour of POC, you're just creating theFax_Benson
    • division politics you complain about.Fax_Benson
    • Let's face it, racism and white identity politics has been an element of American conservatism for a long time. Just look at the tapes of Ronald Reagan releasedyuekit
    • the other day where he calls black politicians monkeys. I think all that has changed today is that the new media has removed the gatekeeper aspect thatyuekit
    • was keeping a lot of this sentiment in check. Along with the emergence of someone like Trump who is willing to blatantly exploit racism for political gain.yuekit
    • fax i was thinking the aoc/harris news hype. Today, I'm partnering with @AOC to announce a landmark bill to ensure that a Green New Deal leaves no one behind andeathboy
    • and lifts up low-income communities, people of color, and indigenous communities.deathboy
    • why colored people? its gas lighting.deathboy
    • well context fo reagan is monkees is savages who where no shoes. what would some on call a poor white person from the ozarks?deathboy
    • a taped private conversation that doesnt reflect reagan actions. his wife anti drug campaign was something else though..like m.obamas..deathboy
    • reagans wife worse for sure.. but noting comaprison for an idea "you need to do something or alleviate a pet peeve by force"deathboy
    • as far as white identity being a form of "conservatism" in a joke. It is simply tribal instinct that crosses political boundaries. again dems champion minimumdeathboy
    • wage and yet here it was a politcal measure to lessen the higher of negros on railroads. Hopefully force them out. So many racist policies on both sides.deathboy
    • but what im talking about has nothing to do with policy but publics slow acceptance to this baby stepping splitting of ideas of people.deathboy
    • Lets say hypothetically more states continue to be non white while major businesses remain owned by whites. We get a perfect scenario to repeat a pattern ofdeathboy
    • history. I'm noticing the talk escalate, and fearful white culture sensitive group acting only makes it worse. and at this rate if we don't ask what is thedeathboy
    • cause we may find ourselves fucked and repeating history. white slaves? a jew genocide in canaan and them having genocide commiteddeathboy
    • yea its early. no race wars early. but it triggered my spidey sense as something to watch. a pattern.deathboy
    • and i take back racism on trump. his appeals regarding race to people were always backseat.deathboy
    • in that race had correlation but never the point. Not racist to focus on immigration and effects of economy. but easily spun as racist...deathboy
    • he strikes me as a person who has no concern for race. but he still has the mindset he can central plan through trade agreements and control economy.deathboy
    • which is terrible.. but dems believes the same but on roids, or at least what they are selling for a chance to get 4 years and paid for life.deathboy
    • some survivor island game show. fuck the people hard or get off. but back to the point watch for "real" equality for all or separation.deathboy
    • Look at the history of the conservative movement since the civil rights era...you would have to be deaf dumb and blind not to see the white identity politicsyuekit
    • aspect of it. It's been openly acknowledged by political strategists for politicians like Nixon. Reagan kicked off his campaign at a town that was known foryuekit
    • lynching black civil rights activists. Welfare queens, tough on crime and just say no campaigns...all had an obvious racial undertone.yuekit
    • I mean obviously after blacks gained equal rights the country did not become non-racist overnight, and there were politicians willing to exploit that.yuekit
    • Tell me yuekit what "conservative" policies after civil rights favored whites? And a fun fact a town reagan kickoffed in is not a reason to label racism.deathboy
    • And i think reagan wife drug war was stupid and it did effect race differently, although that's do to a lot of socio economic factors. if we looked at drugdeathboy
    • issue more libertarian we could be more free. but less safe. we chose security democratically.deathboy
    • but on this post and having a dumb kid shoot up a walmart. that is what im talking about. this PC bullshit and having any kind of negative feelings along racedeathboy
    • as wrong. these kids following social media and news weaponizing feelers and stigma as a form of control. painting an unreal picture.deathboy
    • it is very human to feel fear or confusion or feelings when ones environment is changed or taken over by different people and culture.deathboy
    • its why you see boroughs of similar people in every major populace. very basic and tribal. and to tell people they are wrong to think or feel shit based on itdeathboy
    • reminds me of a church telling homos its bad to like same sex stuff. trying to hide it it still works out in some non normal ways.deathboy
    • i think people have to quit this all racism is evil shit. that is too black and white. its derived of fear first that leads to hate because its never helpeddeathboy
    • hate is an action based motive that can be used to deal with a fear. perhaps if racism wasnt thought of as evil but more a fear of heightsdeathboy
    • it wouldn't be sold so hard by people using it for selfish gains. and people be more helping and less defensive. like a person who's scared of a dogdeathboy
    • theyre frightened for sure, but you will be surprised how many people will be moved by others that understand and have dog sit and help them get over itdeathboy
    • reach out and pet the dog and see there is no fear needed. One bad experience doesn't have to sell out all dogs. But you don't have thatdeathboy
    • culturally you are suppose to despise anyone with any negative feelings. in this environment all you create is resentment and hate.deathboy
    • just some thoughts from my bike ride amongst other AE work around shitdeathboy
    • deathboy not looking to start another 100 note debate, I'll just say this... there are plenty of behaviors like violence, rape etc that were considered "normal"yuekit
    • at some point in human history but that we don't tolerate anymore. I would put racism in the same category. It wasn't that long ago that you had differentyuekit
    • groups of ethnic whites hating and fighting each other, now this would be viewed as completely silly. So I don't think it's inevitable, the problem are peopleyuekit
    • like Trump and right-wing media that encourage people to view the world this way and indulge in basic tribalistic thinking.yuekit
    • cultured norms don't synchronize with biology so need to always consider them. also trump and right wing media only ones promoting tribalism?deathboy
    • my broad point is the both sides promoting tribalism and base race (similarity) instincts drives hard as possible. It wont end welldeathboy
    • do you see trump as disimilar to almost all running opposed? or even the social democratic media sellers? Do they divide differently?deathboy
    • "both side are bad" in the white supremacy thread....pango
    • i don't think you are or at least hope you're not posting these in the white supremacy thread in defence of white supremacy.pango
    • with the history of USA we can guess what would happen when the supremacy is empowered...pango
    • jeez pango read one of my few hundred notes. i think it goes without question in defense of white supremecy or any supremecydeathboy
    • and highly question the narratives that support such shit because i believe very few people think such things. but many can be emotionally provoked to believedeathboy
    • such things creating a bs snowball effect.deathboy
    • how you think i got you saying "both sides are bad"? i read 1 or 2 of your notes.pango
    • ? dont get it. are you saying you read like 1-2 and commented mimicking just because. Could you elaborate? I dont get itdeathboy
    • i aint got time to read all the notes lol. however i was genuinely hoping you weren't defending white supremecy. because you sound like you were.pango
    • haha pango. perhaps you shouldn't try find reason in sounds but words and logic. separates us from song birdsdeathboy
    • pffff we dont need that. we just need rules. what would we be if there are no rules!pango
    • haha. rules are quite the dick hardening solve all for many people. Just others dont need them. Think it was aristotle who said soemthign very nice about rules.deathboy
    • something along the lines of those living through sound philsophy need nothing from rules. rules are only there to try and whip people to live reasonably.deathboy
    • and as such are abstract and can also be quite irrational.deathboy
    • Thought you love Socrates. How you miss this? without rules we are nothing but animals.pango
    • pango the point was those who live through philosophy live above rules. rules are only needed for animalsdeathboy
    • now the defintion of philosophy... a very socratic philosophy is prefered not a mao. one sound and rationale and not swiss cheese of logic.deathboy
    • why i follow certain rules with no fear or acknoweldgement of laws. It just makes sense. why i also break others freely becuase they do not.deathboy
    • rules are really for animals who dont understand why they are in place.deathboy
    • news flash. some animals don't give a shit about rules. and you're only pretending you're free from rules. cherry picking the ones that's convenient.pango
    • and easy to get away with. go try to break every rules in your daily life and see how far that get you.pango
    • "those who live through philosophy live above rules"
      LOL ya that's what they say. but they still follow rules.
      pango
    • also what a snob thing to say lolpango
    • i dont know pango. how free are you.? do you know what rules i follow out of "law" or what i follow out of philosophy?deathboy
    • there are some i am forced to follow in public. and yea im a snob when it comes to values and philosophy. my value differ though from general definitiondeathboy
    • "forced" that doesn't sound free.pango
    • no it's not very free pango. sometimes we have to live with forced conditions of uncivilized society or false ideals. such is lifedeathboy
    • You sure sound free. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯pango
    • Im pretty free. Not much I rely on I don't control. Think you are mistakening my "forced term" I may need to bite my tongue where words enrage simpsdeathboy
    • basic survival. mos def covered it all in GOT. freedom is a utopian concept that you strive for. and ppl have all kinds of anxieties pending on how much theydeathboy
    • may have. but personally im pretty fuckin free in many aspects of the termdeathboy
    • a fish living in a fish tank it's entire live thinks it's free as well.
      keep telling your self that.
      pango
    • so you choose to believe you are a fish in a tank. or at least think i am a fish trapped with you? you will need to explain what freedoms i have no access fordeathboy
    • metaphordeathboy
    • Hey you're the one saying you're free.pango
    • not a 100 percent i trade some freedom for scoiety and protection, not an anrachistdeathboy
    • So your not free but you feel your free. And willing to trade Freedome for protecting. I thought American way is the other way around.pango
    • And it took you 10 month to reply that?
      Get it together!
      pango
    • Not quite. I hardly trade freedom for protection. I think collective financing in form of certain taxes is appropiatedeathboy
    • how many months has it been?
      lol
      pango
  • PhanLo1

    When you're having some bants with the boys in WhatsApp
    https://twitter.com/ReardonRepor…
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    Seeing those chubby militia men squeeze out their mom's car is a strange sight.

    • LARPing used to be cute.Nairn
    • Maybe they're a bit like rubbish football casuals. Like they really want a fight, but have never have a good punch square in the jaw.PhanLo
    • Clowns. The mad fucking bastards who do this type of casual violence, and they exist, never blow about it on social media. Cos, duh, they'll get pinched.face_melter
    • But the Feds will have their hand in this somewhere, egging them on. Cointelpro never really ended.face_melter
    • I reckon the FBI will have been tickling their balls for sure, stroking their limp dicks enough to get em riled up. And the idiot in chief too.PhanLo
    • Joke all ya want, but didn't one these losers shoot a judge in Jersey and murder her son in exactly this way?nb
    • A chubby incel with a gun is never good.PhanLo
  • ben_2

    Honest question; does anyone here identify as any of the following:

    1. Proud Boy
    2. White Nationalist
    3. Patriot
    4. Racial Purist

    If so what makes you one but not the other?

    Doesn’t matter what country you live in by the way, this isn’t exclusive to Americans. I’m legitimately intrigued by isolationism and how it’s percolating from groups like the above to everyday people who would never consider themselves “racist”.

    • i'm not getting why the word patriot is on this liststed
    • ^because general sentiment is you are inherently a racist or immoral person if you are proud of USA.hotroddy
    • and it makes Canadians feel morally superior. Just like BLM folkshotroddy
    • Patriotism is a form of supremacy. It stays.CyBrainX
    • really? maybe in the states, but where i come from it isn't.sted
    • Patriot is not isolationist, white supremacist, or racist. Shifting definitions by generalizing in context makes you complicit in how we cant talk or think.cannonball1978
    • The definition is changing by the hour. @hotroddy, there are plenty of all the above in canada, don’t be a fuckwit.ben_
    • Patriot is becoming rapidly synonymous with the others in the states. Maybe not true in other countries, but I suspect what happens in America will solidify theben_
    • Definition the world over. I also didn’t say they were all the same, I asked if you see yourself as one or the other, how it differs. Jeezeben_
    • Hayoth and Deathboy selected all of the above.utopian
    • No, the definition is not changing by the hour.cannonball1978
    • from my perspective, I would say the patriots are the people who care about the country, so they want the infected orange monkey out of the office...rzu-rzu
    • ...from my experience those who are the loudest to call themselves patriots rarely are true patriotsrzu-rzu
    • exactly. patriotism is something what you don't carry in your mouth, but in your heart.sted
    • Fair enough. I included it because of the encroachment of nationalistic tendencies being cloaked in “patriotism” but I’m glad your guys are pointing out theben_
    • Difference to you.ben_
    • The word "patriot" has taken on a whole new meaning under the Dumpster Administration along with the Faux News Network.utopian
    • SEMIOTICS AND HYPERNORMALISATIONgrafiske
    • What's difference between pole smoker, carpet muncher, a prideful member of lgaybqt, community, and a faggot?deathboy
    • The first three doesn't make u a cigarettedeathboy
    • But all 4 including the cig are racistsdeathboy
    • important note on patriotism, no one is born a patriot, but taught to be one...renderedred
    • No one is born any of the above, yeah.ben_
    • But I guess the answer so far is no one would identify publicly as any of the above... except maybe a patriot if under the right definition.ben_
    • I knew I’d see proudboy in the notes.Ramanisky2
    • I’m a patriot. More than the president.monospaced
    • Democrats are the true patriots.monospaced
    • Democrats would sell there mom out for bullshit equality. Tocqueville nailed itdeathboy
    • The only party deathboy belongs to is NAMBLAben_
    • Patriot is the wrong term, maybe nationalist is what you were thinking of?yuekit
    • Niggers and moms for black LA? Maybe a partnership with nwa. Did see he his interview got booted because working with trumpdeathboy
    • And he just playing 17 mag words games of non sensical fun. It more fun trying to spin all 4 words into a personadeathboy
    • I'm a proud bit that welcomed all people with a sense of pride and patriotism. All the while being accepting everyone I find pride in my white heritage. I alsodeathboy
    • Use a racial purist water filter set to white to Optimize micro nutrients and purity for my nationalitydeathboy
    • Boom nailed all 4deathboy
  • PhanLo0


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    Handed in their console for repair.

  • PhanLo3

  • PhanLo1

    • what in serious shit was that at the end? insta hitler tache?Nairn
    • deathboi ?Salarrue
  • PhanLo0


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    Bit awkward with the Dora the Explorer Seat in there.

    • would love to talk to a guy like that...
      "just tell me what i need to know" imagine the shit that would pour from his lips.
      imbecile
    • If he’s a real wizard he wouldn’t need pellet gunsthumb_screws
  • PhanLo0

    • they always look inbredmoldero
    • The best genes for sure.
      Facial features scaled to 60%
      PhanLo
    • Dat Dome!utopian
  • PhanLo0

  • Ramanisky21

    Ummmmm ... da fuq?!?

    In a statement the A’s coach says it was unintentional... unintentional? He did It twice.

    • looks like he was waiting for a high five as customary, then was reminded that we bump elbows now, to which he says of course and laughs, then pokes fun at_niko
    • himself by replaying it, like "i'm such an idiot"_niko
    • or maybe he's a card-carrying nazi, who knows._niko
    • Christenson normally celebrates wins by making a karate chop in the air with his arm, according to Slusser. He told Slusser he was attempting to do a chop and_niko
    • didn't realize he was making the offensive gesture until Hendriks told him, "No, no straight arm, you have to bend your arm."_niko
    • but I suppose, if that's true, they should have tons of video from other games where he's karate chopping the air and could clear this up_niko
  • Gnash0

    Decolonizing journalism in one of Canada’s top J programs
    At Carleton

    • wutpango
    • gayhotroddy
    • gotta be fake?PonyBoy
    • ... or not:
      https://twitter.com/…
      PonyBoy
    • Living in MX with a bunch of boomer Canadians (during tourist season) I can say I know more racist Canadians than Americansmoldero
    • the shit that comes out of their mouths will blow your fucking mind.moldero
    • i haven't met racist canadian boomers yet. and wouldn't be surprised there are many.pango
    • Damn, moldero. I have to say I’m surprised. At least I wouldn’t expect them to be that overt about it.Gnash
    • I'm not surprised. Once you're out of the major cities it can get pretty swampy in the Canadian sticks.ben_
    • lol, yeah, anyone been to cottage country?_niko
    • moldero: Do tell! I doubt I'll be surprised.zarkonite
  • d_rek4

    Yeah, we're definitely not all that 'supreme'

    • she grows a hell of a beard.dbloc
    • You guys take the piss, posting pics of my mum on here.sem
    • As a white male, I do not identify with these hateful, inbred fucks. Sorry humanity.garbage
    • Come on now, y'all know toilet-seat horseshoes ain't never hurt no one. Not intentional anywaysnb
  • utopian-1

    Trump 'backs Stephen Miller' amid accusations of racist ideology

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-bac…

  • utopian0

    They're alive and well

    White Anti-Quarantine Protesters Have Cruelly Co-opted a Black 18th Century Slave

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/wh…