Apple faces reality
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- twokids0
Yeah, formed. good point. I think the overriding trend isnt that companys and products rise and fall, it is how FAST it happens now.
The iPad now seems almost quaint. Not magic, just a thing most people have.
What will it look like in 10 years?
- formed0
Not everyone cares about apps. They are fun, there are some great ones, great functionality, but I could live without them. Most people I know could live without them, too. They use them because they are there, not because they need them. That said, clearly some people love them (just like I'll never understand the time people waste so much time playing video games).
Competition is good. Do or die. Just watched a piece on the Razr. Only a few years ago it was the shit, now barely anyone remembers that Motorola makes phones. 130 million of those were sold. Not too shabby.
Shocking how fast Motorola fell from grace (not the same, but worth pointing out).
- HAYZ1LLLA0
Apple Mail = Worst Software Ever
- instrmntl0
Their phone was groundbreaking with the touch screen. However, their dictatorship of a closed system, sandboxed apps etc is hurting them in the long run.
- it's hurting them so bad, they have only sold 25 BILLION appsmonospaced
- fadein110
OS development will be key to their continued success - its all looking a bit tired now.
- ESKEMA0
meanwhile, tell me what app is the shit on Android? or Windows phone, that is not on iPhone?
Exactly. Developers are the people who make a good platform great, and they choose iOS. Android is secondary. There hasn't been ONE app that stood out and came to become an icon coming from Android exclusively. THAT is the main difference between platforms. App ecosystem. And Apple is lightyears away in that department..- thats because historically the app designers/developers were apple kids - thats changing.fadein11
- lol, developers traditionally Apple kids!? please, we have been the bane of the gaming world until 5 years agomonospaced
- fadein110
The brand is so powerful people with money to burn will continue to pay over the odds for poor (sometimes) products. I have family members who do it all the time. iCloud is awful, iTunes is awful, iPhoto etc. are awful. But because they appear to be so easy people love it (until something goes wrong and you are fucked).
I have used Apple products for 20 years and still love a lot of what they do but healthy competition is a great thing for everyone.- I agree with competition, don't agree that they're doomed though.ESKEMA
- mekk0
Apple is also struggling with their own limitations. It's just gotten too popular and too big.
People move to macs from their windows machines and can't use them. So Apple was making their machines worse and worse over the past years to make it feel cool for new users. No one of the old-generation mac users feels familiar with their new ecosystem. All the limitations and dictatorship.. thats just not Apple anymore.
- formed0
Companies have indeed caught up to Apple. Overtaken, not yet...but close. They are moving and adapting far faster than they ever did with PCs, that's for sure.
Where Apple goes will depend on their next OS, imho. I can't stand their icons and find it pretty amateurish (at this point), but it does work and people are familiar with it. But Windows is far better (again, imho).
Now that they have fired Scott Forstall, I think there is hope. But then again, their OS has looked amateurish forever (bouncing icons?? A company would be laughed at if they created that with a Flash website).
I am anxious to see what iOS 7, or whatever, looks like. The world of Apple will depend on it.
- << overtaken yes (phone wise). please find someone w a nexus 4.instrmntl
- Windows has yellowed folders and a disgusting reflex blue interface, aliased type and you think it's better?monospaced
- ESKEMA0
^^Apple Maps was their best move. 2 months later after iOS 6 was released, Google Maps released a new version of it's app that is far superior to the previous and Apple don't have to pay a license to Google anymore. Sounds like it went fucking great to me..
- mekk0
Apple has combined being a very large company with startup-thinking. That was good and brought up some cool products but now it's not that Apple has become slow or lame, it's just that other companies catched up and are now overtaking them.
Apple was 90% Steve Jobs. Jobs is dead. We have seen it with Apple Maps. Jobs would have never let things like that happen. Apple is struggling to keep their speed of 'innovations'. They were sleeping just for some months and threads like this are the results.
- Apple was not 90% Jobs, sorry, and there's no way you can predict what he would have donemonospaced
- To me it seems Jobs was most likely behing the creation of Apple Maps and it push to launch prematurely. Probably one of his last decisions carried out.instrmntl
- one of his last decisions carried out.instrmntl
- fadein110
I have been an android user for a while - love it. S2 easily the best phone I have ever had (I've used Android and ios).
But time to upgrade now. S4 is out in April (UK) but I am also tempted to try an iPhone 5 for a change.
What do you reckon? Is it as disappointing as people say.- I have one...far from disappointed!
the best thing is...it just works! :]vivid
- I have one...far from disappointed!
- Miguex0
you are all looking to get validation from other people on why are you getting another phone that's not made by apple. why even try? no one says that you HAVE TO HAVE an iPhone, get whatever you want man, is just a phone.
But don't start long as elaborated theories trying to analyze what will happen in the future because no one can know that.
On a side note, the windows phone has a very nice UI, maybe better than iOS, I was looking at it the other day and it's really nice. If it was up to me, I wouldn't let any software developer to have color logos, just white on OS color, (or at least give that option to the user).
Will I ever get one? probably not, but I can appreciate it without having to initiate a 'what phone is best combat situation'
- inteliboy0
doomed I tells ya, doomed! oh wait...
- teh0
yup im with CREDO. got the S3 for free 2 year contract. unlimited data, 400 txt but no roll over $74.00 a month. was a cyber monday deal.
- futuremongolian0
Had 2 iPhones. Got the Samsung S3.
S3 > iPhone by texas mile my homeboys.
- monospaced0
- I like the G+ there at the bottom.formed
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- sine0
- necromation0
BLAH BLAH BLAH... The truth is Apple ain't going anywhere and it will NEVER be cooler to have a fucking Samsung phone than a IPhone.
I have worked with Samsung products and got to use/test them and they are FUCKING shit... why on earth would i think it's cool to slide my hand across my screen in order to screen shot the page!?!?!
Just big screens and gimicks. Lets see who's still in the game 10 years from now...- Apple will total be embedded into everything : TV, MUSIC and COMMUNICATION. waitnecromation
- A little over 10 years ago Apple was nothingformed