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- 23kon0
People may want guns to defend their homes against the police or the army coming to seize their guns if the government changes the 5th and bans all guns?
Just sayin.- dumb shit, you don't even know what the 5th ismonospaced
- He pleads the 5th though.dibec
- shoot thy father and thy mothermoldero
- mg330
That Obama image I referred to pisses me off so much. I thought all the Obama hate would fade after the election. But no, all my Republican friends who hate having a black president, this is their new form of hate.
- instrmntl0
http://www.qbn.com/topics/678647…
Isn't there enough excitement on NTC or is it necessary to make flame bait threads? Go outside and get some fresh air.
- yurimon0
I submit this as a case study.
- d_rek0
I a gun owner, an avid hunter and have hunted my entire life, and occasionally shoot for sport.
I own a single action shotgun for big game hunting and a semi-automatic ruger .22 varmint rifle for small game, and plan on purchasing a compound bow in the near future. I do not own a pistol but have considered getting one and getting my CCW/CPL permits simply because it's my right to do so, not that I necessarily have a compelling argument for ownership. Although one could argue that simply having that Right is itself a compelling argument.
So, in speaking as not a gun owner but as a Hunter and Conservationist I think firearms do play an important role in America for several reasons.
For one, Hunting is one of the premier activities for an outdoorsman. It provides unparalleled liesure time for someone who even remotely cherishes the great outdoors. Not only that hunting your own wild game has myriad advantages to your diet and conscious - the least of which being you're eating ultra-lean meat provided from the land and you know exactly how that animal was killed and processed; something you can't rightfully say for industrialized livestock yards.
As a Conservationist most people simply do no understand that we as Human beings are the Alpha Predators in our ecology. That means we are responsible - as it has been for thousands upon thousands of years - for keeping the population of wild game in check. Game herds can and will encroach upon civilian populations if left unchecked. This is when you start to hear stories about Coyotes savaging your neighbors poodle or a brown bear running around through downtown.
Also something most people don't realize is that the popularity of Hunting (for many reasons) is at an all time low. Grandparents and parents are no longer indoctrinating the next generation into a life enriched by outdoor activity and hunting. We're a bunch of passive, city-dwelling hipsters who would as soon stop in at Chipotle and grab that burrito for our next meal than worry about actually having to work for it.
So there is more to Hunting and Firearms ownership than simply owning the firearm and killing something for a trophy. That's a gross and ridiculous simplification of the role and responsibility of the hunter in society.
Hopefully that all makes sense.
- +100. Excellents points. These are the kinds of things I want to, and like to see. Rational reasons for gun ownership.mg33
- Ah yes. If it weren't for guns in my country the bears would take over the city.Peter
- Oh waitPeter
- It's not only about encroaching on civilian populations. Conservation goes way beyond the human element of society.d_rek
- Everybody has a gun, that is why bears don't roam the streets in the US. Rest of the modern world, on the other hand ...Peter
- identity0
I'm still able to answer questions. I'd really like to give a rational, and measured account of what the other- side thinks. Also, D- Rek sums up the hunter's perspective pretty eloquently.
- fooler0
open beer bottles?
- rson0
I own 2 guns. I do not hunt they are locked up in my bedroom.
- mantrakid0
@rson, can you explain why you have them though? Like what is their purpose... what will cause you to unlock them & bring them out?
- rson0
@mantrakid I live in Philadelphia there are about 20 break ins each summer in my hood. I would unlock them if some broke into my house. I do not think I would fire. More of a scare tactic.
- rson0
@mantrakid Plus you live in Canada. Sorry to say the cites in the states are a little rougher. Not to say your country does not have crime. You just do not have a fucked up history as we do.
- mantrakid0
@rson, yeah i know exactly what you mean. I was honestly just trying to understand the reasoning - it's hard to relate living in a place where i forget to lock my front door before going to bed sometimes.
- GeorgesII0
I'll giv u my gunz n haiphone5 when you pray it from my cold, ded handz"
- Frosty_spl0
My friend had a crackhead pull a knife on him at a gas station. He has a concealed carry permit and pulled out his gun.
The crackhead ran off.
Tell me again why I should not own a gun, and people are nutjobs for wanting one.
- +1rson
- Because there are too many nutjobs that have them.fyoucher1
- That's why you should have one too. =) Level the playing field.Frosty_spl
- So we all need guns and anyone should have the capacity to kill someone anytime?newuser
- With better drug programs and mental health programs we can lower the number of crackheads.newuser
- Having an armed society is not good for society.newuser
- fyoucher10
A "nice to have" but unnecessary for life. Law Enforcement, military, yeah. Too bad a few bad eggs f-ed it up for the decent gun-totin citizens. Killing children needs to stop now, and one way to help is to get rid of guns. The CT incident can't happen again. Just can't, at whatever cost. It's selfish for gun activists to think otherwise. I'm really disgusted that some folks cite the 2nd amendment and then argue a coming 2nd American Revolution bullshit and that they need em' for protection when the intruder comes in. The 2nd amendment happened a couple hundred years ago. Time to make a change for the better.
Then they argue about how criminals will still get guns. Yeah, initially. Then supply and demand will kick in, making them crazy ass expensive. Or lets make bullets ridiculously expensive. That'll cut down death by firearm by a silly amount. Why wouldn't a country want that?
- fyoucher10
I understand the idea of self-protection. I get that. I'm all for that, just not with guns. Fact is, that most illegally-owned guns come from legally-purchased owners at some point. The idea behind banning them is to get them all off the street at some point in time and to avoid mass killings. Yeah, it'll take a long ass time for that to happen. Mass killings and children being killed by guins NEED to stop and on the contrary, you don't NEED a gun.
Re: Frosty_spl: As far as having a gun when someone pulls a knife on you, your friend was lucky. There's probably a good chance that most folks would have a knife in their neck when they attempted to pull their gun out. Or, you can carry a knife for self-protection. Level-the playing field.
- CygnusZero40
I go to ranges and shoot for practice, for no other reason than its fun and I really enjoy it. My girlfriend also enjoys it and its something we do together. Couldnt care less about what any asshole thinks about my hobbies.
I know a LOT of gun owners, and most of us dont have them because were worried about protecting our rights. Lol, dumbest shit I read all week. I know a lot of people that either hunt or go to the gun ranges. And I dont know a single person that owns an assault rifle. I dont know anyone that shoots them for fun or hunts with them so I dont give a shit, ban them. Wont stop people from killing with guns and it wont stop people from getting assault weapons anyway. The import business will boom and nothing will be fixed.
The US is a huge country and there are a lot of crazy people here. Why do 12 year olds in China have machine guns? Because they are fucking crazy. Not all of us that own guns are paranoid or have them because were worried about getting murdered.
- Peter0
> I go to ranges and shoot for practice, for no other reason than its fun and I really enjoy it. My girlfriend also enjoys it
> I dont know anyone that shoots them for fun
- >guns
>assault riflesjohnny_wobble - I can't imagine anyone shooting an assault rifle for fun.Peter
- You've clearly never shot an assault rifle :-)identity
- Congratulations Identity, u just noticed something odd with the post above. You should repost it. Or jst copy the stuff to the leftPeter
- :DPeter
- >guns