Shooting of the Day
Shooting of the Day
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- drgs2
Remember when Apple changed the gun emoji to a water pistol to stop gun violence
- I'm glad that made a differenceChimp
- Thanks, Elon.palimpsest
- Instead of all these gun laws and banning guns talk, just ban bullets and voilà those nasty guns are instantly non-lethal.shapesalad
- Remember folks, Guns don't kill people, Bullets do!shapesalad
- Bullets don't kill people, bleeding does!palimpsest
- Bleeding doesn't kill people, easily penetrated skin does!bezoar
- You're going backwards. Let's get this back on track.
Bleeding doesn't kill people, the heart stopping does.palimpsest - Heart stopping doesn’t kill people, a lack of blood to the brain does.Chimp
- Lack of blood to the brain doesn't kill people, lack of oxygen to the brain kills does!Continuity
- Kills does? Yup, you read that right. And I stand by it.Continuity
- A lack of oxygen to the brain doesn’t kill people, the lack of aerobic cellular respiration does.Chimp
- https://i.imgur.com/…drgs
- I can’t believe you think this comment is appropriate or in any way insightful.monospaced
- palimpsest3
If all the other countries in the world had the same gun laws as America would they have the same proportion of school shootings?
- Unlikely, I think. Well, for the most part, anyway. I think it's in large part a cultural issue.Continuity
- Which is to say: guns simply aren't adored as much elsewhere as they are in the US.Continuity
- But, then, who knows, actually. Maybe availability would create interest, and also bring the crazies out.Continuity
- i dunno - as a member of a gun club here in the uk, i see all manner of unsuitable people on guest days eager to get their hands on a gun and shoot it.hans_glib
- they don't make it past our admission policy but they're out there alright.hans_glib
- Eventually, most likely. It also takes years of Fox News and a festering culture of murder and conspiracy theory to help those numbers along.CyBrainX
- Maybe the fervour for freedom and individualism plays a bigger part in American gun culture than the laws themselves.palimpsest
- I think that at this point America is beyond salvation.palimpsest
- Well, part of the problem here is equating guns with freedom. I would argue freedom *from* guns is the better freedom to have. Hence, control laws.Continuity
- Two Concepts of Liberty.palimpsest
- In the end, yup.
And it's also a question of competing values.Continuity - mass murder with guns is an American tradition now. It's a 'cultural' phenomenon. No point in trying to work out why, just accept it.PhanLo
- It's a bit like the Mayans and their ritual sacrifice.PhanLo
- Scandies and Swiss have high gun ownership, but.. better-functioning social and economic nets for a greater number.Nairn
- instrmntl1
Alternative helicopter angle.
- doesn't make sense. Missfire maybe? don't want to believe that they would shoot someone in cold blood like that especially with the chopper and dash and body ca_niko
- cameras_niko
- dont comply? bye bye!CygnusZero4
- so fucked up ...
guys already tazed and on the ground.
also the guy in the chopper, "looks like a bad dude too" .. ffsRamanisky2 - Murder, straight and simple. He wasn't tazed at all. And all for having a stalled vehicle while being black. I'm glad Kapernick is still taking a knee.instrmntl
- i thought his initial drop to the ground was from a tazer then the gun blastRamanisky2
- so since he paid taxes and paid for the police, their training and the bullets used. didn't he technically just commit suicide?bliznutty
- in the USA, if a cop says Jump! and you don't say How High? - you can somehow legally be the result of arbitrary force for being non-compliantbliznutty
- Thats what they reported initally. There is no one within 10 feet of him when he fell to the ground/was shot.instrmntl
- they will say he was reaching inside the vehicle. basically he didn't comply to an order. these shootings will continue - most of America support copsbliznutty
- fucking hell!oey
- Poor guy.instrmntl
- "we have a suspect down"...suspect of what?! fucking cops...wtf?! I'm happy I don't live in the USA.oey
- Boogie Down Productions - Who Protects Us From You
https://www.youtube.…instrmntl - popo state.yurimon
- Police in the US are really doing a miraculous job of making themselves look like callous, uneducated idiots. Respect is evaporating at an alarming rate.formed
- I do think there will be some bad repercussions from the stances they are taking.formed
- Totally avoidable situation, the US has become a powder keg and shit like this is happening unnecessarily_niko
- @formed, and racistmonospaced
- IRNlun61
Like I said, gun rights and racial tension in America are complex and inextricably linked.
- Indeed.2002
- JFK Assassination?oey
- malcolm x2002
- Malcolm X. Whats lost in the gun rights debate is the ability to defend oneself from very legitimate threats where defending oneself is soley in their own hand.IRNlun6
- thanks obama?GeorgesII
- What is classified a legitimate threat?BusterBoy
- Weird last name. Xsureshot
- In the 90's during the height of the Tecno scene I was also called Xoey
- ...not really.oey
- Black people live in a white society not the contrary.i_was
- @sureshot, c'mon, seriously?monospaced
- You forgot to mention race baiting during election season.yurimon
- sted0
About 20 people are dead and 42 wounded after a gunman opened fire on revellers at Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando, at 02:00 local time (06:00 GMT)
- Terrible and looking like another act of terrorism by an islamic jihadi.IRNlun6
- 50 deaddrgs
- https://pbs.twimg.co…Akagiyama
- he was the fucker who did this?sted
- probably also gay and couldn't handle the guilt or something after he became radicalized so this was his way to atone.
just a guess._niko - @IRN how is this looking like Islamic radical jihadists? It looks like an American dude who wanted to kill gay people to me.monospaced
- ^ are you serious? wtf?yurimon
- Suspect had 'leanings' towards radical Islam, FBI says. FBI is the most reasonable information we can get at this moment.IRNlun6
- about the 'leanings': Charge Ronald Hopper said investigators are "looking into all angles right now."sted
- Omar Saddiqui Mateen, born in USA in 1986 with ties to Afghanistan. Muslim?
http://thinkprogress…portmanteau - Looks like an American dude, that had become brainwashed by someone or some group (isis?) and had fantasies of murdering homosexuals. Combination?portmanteau
- how about that he just simply hated gays?
no religion, no politics, just simple hatred which escalated into violence.sted - That's what I was thinking too.monospaced
- so he was atheist. hmmm thats what im thinking when you said no religion.yurimon
- im guessing he was contacted by the terrogroup via the atheist ideological angle. no virgins, neutral in politics. so what you hate bro angle.yurimon
- That's far too simple of a deduction IMO. There has to be more to it, truth will come out shortly. Regardless of potential ties to isis, he grew up under islam.portmanteau
- One's upbringing makes us who we are and if he had a strict upbringing under islam, well? Last I checked homosexuality is punishable by death.portmanteau
- Within many of those islamic country laws. Yes, this is insane. Influenced by what exactly?portmanteau
- We will attack FL?
http://www.thegatewa…portmanteau - Credibility of gateway pundit might be sketchy, but still.portmanteau
- it sounds more exciting that he was part of a sleeping cell and got recently activated or brainwashed. we'll never know exactly. that's the most disgusting.sted
- Hopefully the US Feds have exactly what they need to label this madman. Regardless of reason he's a fucking sicko. Human life is human life.portmanteau
- Say what you will on patriot act and privacy. Times like this make me OK with it. Dive right into every text, email and phone call feds!!!!portmanteau
- This could have been one of our brothers, uncles, nephews, cousins, etc. Quite sad.portmanteau
- I know someone that lives a mile from there. Yeah, it makes you question "privacy". I saw anyone that owns a gun surrenders their personal infoformed
- http://www.zerohedge…portmanteau
- They already do that and it didn't stop this shit.yuekit
- Yes, the ball was dropped. It's a culture that needs to be crushed.portmanteau
- Bennn5
- Because problems manufacture and sell guns to other problems.ApeRobot
- People aren't the problem. The problem is killing people, why not just ban killing people?palimpsest
- why not just ban people? no more shootings thengrafician
- triggers are the problem, Make triggers illegal.dbloc
- If we made triggers illegal Twitter would have to close and the economy would collapse. Keep your filthy hands off our triggers.palimpsest
- fooler4
Gun Safety Instructor Accidentally Shoots Pastor During Class...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/en…
- utopian0
Yet another religious, white, gun nut, Republican from the deep south.
- Terrorist.nb
- and out come more nuts celebrating this horrific and cowardly act, these are the extremists I am afraid of...this isn't too far awayformed
- Not Christian. Christianity is a religion of peace.IRNlun6
- lol @ IRNlun6monospaced
- IRNlun6 is correct... same thing goes for those who say ISIS is not Islam... right?PonyBoy
- Can we stop using the word terrorist? It's dumb.pango
- Christianity throughout history has the been the worst, murdering, crusading, genocidal religion that has ever been. Fuck off Christian cuntset
- Police didn't use lethal force in this instance. And there has been no calls for Christians to act to stop this in the media. Curious.monoboy
- Maybe they are too busy combatting extremist like the KKK?monoboy
- yeah... but Christians 'say' they're a peaceful religion... that's my point, set... Islam says they're peaceful too... so... they MUST BE PEACEFUL... right?PonyBoy
- This guy, like the Paris murderers are just extremists... they're not examples of the actual faith... right? Or does this only work w/Islam extremists?PonyBoy
- I've been noticing my peers in the West have an intense hatred for Christians because they grew up as one or with them... but often my peers...PonyBoy
- ... act the exact opposite when it's some Islamist prick killing up the neighbor— in their case it's cuz they're poor and abused by the USA...PonyBoy
- ... it's almost as if one faith gets a pass by the West when in fact both are fucking disgusting in terms of the way they treat their fellow man.PonyBoy
- lol - all religious nuts are pricks...fadein11
- Jesus taught to love your enemies. The other guy taught the opposite. If christians are killing in Jesus' name, they're not following Jesus.scransom5
- You sound a little brainwashed thereset
- I'm comparing text with text. This guy is mentally ill and just as quick as you to condemn irrationally.scransom5
- imbecile0
- I'd love to hear someone's defense of this.formed
- who would be defending this level of negligence in parenting or caretaking?yurimon
- and there you go..."guns don't kill, toddlers do"formed
- 52 bad parents in 24 states that can't lock away their weapons and ammo securely.BabySnakes
- who would leave an unsecured weapon around a child. or anything dangerous, you put away, sharp objects, sockets, whatever. dont go retardy broh..yurimon
- Yeah. Any gun owner knows the best fire arm is one that is locked away and not loaded. You know. In case of robbers.monospaced
- mono owns many guns.yurimon
- any responsible gun own can put a loaded weapon out of the reach of a 3 year old? unless it is that kid crawling up the wall in that gifBabySnakes
- http://i.imgur.com/p…BabySnakes
- MuriKKKa Fuck Yeah!utopian
- I don't own guns yurimon. What a stupid ass thing to say.monospaced
- mono... you need to install a sarcasm detector, dude :)
<3PonyBoy - "From 2011 to 2013, an average of 11,000 children under age 18 were treated in emergency rooms for injuries involving TVs..."... that's about 105...PonyBoy
- ... accidents per week... should probably start banning those TV's as they're far more dangerous than guns...PonyBoy
- ... also according to the Washington post:PonyBoy
- https://www.washingt…PonyBoy
- I really couldn't lay it on thicker. Me thinks it's other who need help detecting it.monospaced
- What does the TV stat have to do with this? People also choke on broccoli... and slip in the shower... and fall down stairs blah blah blah.inteliboy
- http://i.imgur.com/P…utopian
- intelli... my point is you should be more upset w/parental negligence... not the existence of guns :)PonyBoy
- considering the number of guns and toddlers in america a total of 13 suicide and 2 homicides... thats not that baddeathboy
- for random number people there is 85 forklift deaths per yeardeathboy
- why, and how, do people bring up these silly comparisons? Guns are made of ONE thing, to kill. Show me something else that serves that ONE purpose.formed
- anything else is just a ridiculous avoidance tactic that sounds/looks foolish.formed
- You guys are all crazy! The trick is to give ALL toddlers guns so the good ones can stop the bad ones.sarahfailin
- formed—the point is that guns are safe—regardless of what they're for (protection—or 'killing' if you want to be dramatic) :) Negligence should piss you of morePonyBoy
- it pisses me off when people just jump to absurd comparisons and deny that there are things you can do to prevent these needless deathsformed
- it divides the country and just makes people angry. There is much that can be done besides trying to deflect the blame and responsibility.formed
- and how would you prevent these needless deaths, formed? I can go right into a plethora of 'needless death' scenarios not involving guns that far outweigh...PonyBoy
- ... gun deaths... but you'll get upset again and forget that guns don't kill... they don't get up off the shelve and fire themselves.PonyBoy
- guns are not "safe", they are deadly. You can contain that, but trying to shift the blame just makes people look at gun advocates as selfish nuts.formed
- Negligence exists... it's not an excuse to kill the 2nd amendment.PonyBoy
- guns are PERFECTLY safe devices in the hands of someone trained... you obviously haven't been around responsible gun ownersPonyBoy
- I'm gonna back out of this argument, formed... we won't get anywhere and I much prefer to stay inspired by this community that have these endless...PonyBoy
- ... angry conversations.
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3PonyBoy - explosives are safe and don't kill either, right? So why not allow C4 to be sold at Walmart? Surely I could stop a criminal with a trip wire and explosivesformed
- see how silly that sounds?formed
- and nobody, anywhere, has ever said anything about killing any amendments, again, that's the fear mongering talking, always extremes,formed
- never reasonable discussions.formed
- and for the record, I am a gun owner, I just get tired of people jumping to these ridiculous extremes - no excuse, work to find solutions, compromise, etc., etcformed
- owning a gun you know that it's on you to refrain from moronic negligence—also— the 2nd ammend is very much up for grabs- to get to step X you have start at APonyBoy
- the comparisons made of 'what kills' is not silly, formed... stop blaming the device and start blaming the human... that's all I'm sayingPonyBoy
- Blame the human and make it hard to get guns when they want to kill. It's not that hard to figure out. Oh and ban the insane automatic weapons.monospaced
- Nobody needs massive artillery to protect themselves. That's just ridiculous.monospaced
- When was the last time an automatic weapon was used in a mass shooting... or in the shooting of a toddler for that matter? (or artillery that wasn't homemade?)PonyBoy
- AR15's and the like are not automatic, mono... you can't buy / own auto weapons w/out jumping through mad hoops— they're not really an issuePonyBoy
- AR15's avail. to the public aren't fully auto (I meant to say)... any auto-weapon owned had to of been made before 1986 and is a bitch to get a permit forPonyBoy
- You can't control human stupidity. You CAN control their access to things that kill other humans. It's really that simple.formed
- Full auto is not an issue, but the absurd number of assault rifles available is an issue. There is no logic behind those beyond Rambo wannabe's and idiots thatformed
- think they can be a "hero" in the next Walmart parking lot debacle (let's see what lovely news comes this Friday)formed
- Right. Assault weapons. Whatever. So stupid.monospaced
- Killer babies, huh?
Jeb Bush can wage this war...futurefood - formed, you should run for furor. you'd be great.yurimon
- utopian4
Make America Great Again!
- <fadein11
- if the numbers were the issue we should ban Alcohol. It is the cause of 80K deaths a year.BabySnakes
- Silly comparisons - guns serve one purpose: To Kill.formed
- but the effects of a hypothetical gun prohibition would be very similar. wouldn't stop the criminals, just make it harder for good people to defend themselvesgilgamush
- ^ what's ratio between guns being used for protection versus guns used for crime?aliastime
- good questiongilgamush
- but seeing as how guns used in crimes are almost always illegally procured, it doesn't really have anything to do with the gun control discussiongilgamush
- illegally procured at some point, but legally produced and distributed at conception... curbing some of that might help overallmonospaced
- so now you want to interfere with the private sector because people are misusing the products. don't you value personal responsibility at all or do you thing thgilgamush
- that big government is the answer to our societies every problem. mono, change doesn't have to come in the form of lawsgilgamush
- the other problem with this chart is that i would consider these people who go on semi random shooting sprees to be domestic terroristsgilgamush
- nb4
MYTH: "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
By that so-called logic, the only thing preventing this murder would be for someone else to murder that cop while she was on her way home from work.
Fucking ridiculous.
If everyone had a gun there would be more of these cases. The police are already running around terrified of everyone.
- +1 logicmonospaced
- Only 10 years for killing an innocent man in his own apartment while he eats ice cream while watching TV?fooler
- This can only happen in America and probably Brazil. She's a product of the fucked up system._niko
- No, the logic is he would have killed her when she invaded his home.MondoMorphic
- And he'd get Life in prison as a cop killernb
- PhanLo1
This still from an LAPD officer's body camera shows police right before they fired on a man homeless holding a woman hostage with a knife. They fatally shot both the man and the hostage.
20 shots were fired.
http://www.laist.com/2018/07/31/…- I saw this earlier and wondered what the point was - if you're just going to shoot at a single hostage then.. what exactly are you achieving?detritus
- *shoot blindlydetritus
- They shot him just as he was slicing the womans throatrobotron3k
- Tough call on the officers part, but the gang member was not going out quietly.robotron3k
- Best they finished her off then.PhanLo
- Gang member?monospaced
- He was a gang member, she was an old homeless lady.PhanLo
- What a fucked up situation .. why not keep firing rubber bullets at him ?? No way he can take several rounds while holding a knife in one hand.Ramanisky2
- I don't understand why they can't just shoot him in the foot early on and be done with it.fyoucher1
- They're probably kicking themselves for not shooting him before he grabbed herGnash
- I don't understand why she was that close to him, wouldn't get away from a man walking around with a knife in his hand?syst_m
- Gnash2
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/t…Toronto this time
10 shot. shooter dead.- 2 blocks from my house.Gnash
- yikes!jaylarson
- Right outside my cousins cafe. fucking hell. Talked to him briefly, ok but shaken had to give a statement to the cops._niko
- so far, unconfirmed reports say it was a white supremacist_niko
- but he's dead...probably self inflicted i'd imagine._niko
- children shot too, fucking hell._niko
- I hang out there all the time, with my wife and kids, could have easily been us..._niko
- I was just a few blocks away from there this afternoon.i_monk
- unfortunate but probably very little you can do when it's a mentally ill man on a rampage. Tougher gun laws? we have some of the toughest on the planet I think._niko
- Wtfpango
- So crazy - hope all my Toronto QBN'ers are safe and sound.ben_
- Tragic, dude was obviously mentally ill, not sure why warning signs were missed, just hope he’s not another incel loser._niko
- from what i've read so far and the description of the victims, it seems that he was targeting (mostly) women :(_niko
- ^ he certainly looks the part.Gnash
- 50/50 men and woman victims, all you have to do is read _nikoimbecile
- wasn't updated, all i read was two females dead and others talking about how he walked up and seemed to shoot at women only. where did you read 50/50?_niko
- They’ve identified him now. Unsuprisingly, family said he’s been struggling with psychosis / mental illness for years. So hard to get mental health supportGnash
- obviously, canada needs better healthcare. (or humans just kill each other... like most all lifeforms on earth from ants to chimps)imbecile
- https://torontosun.c…Gnash
- The Sun has nothing to say that's worth reading.i_monk
- that's true. but it's a little odd that no other source even mentions it. at least in comparison to the other truck guy.Gnash
- there was no end to the speculation about his -- albeit more politic -- motivesGnash
- Van guy's incel posting was connected to the attack within 24 hours.i_monk
- What the Sun is doing here is offering multiple anonymous sources and speculation, put in contrast with the family statement to imply they are lying.i_monk
- I don't disagree about the sun's take. I just find the complete absence curiousGnash
- Anyone that lives near the Danforth as he did (Thorncliffe is a 10 minute drive) Knows it's mostly Greek but bery multi-cultural, and cafe Demetre's though_niko
- started by Greeks, has been owned by Muslims for the past few years, I was there the night before with my wife and the place was 80-90% muslims. Cafe D's and_niko
- the Danforth in general is the last place ISIS would target to make a point of any kind. This guy was a deranged/delusional loser plain and simple._niko
- A 10 minute Drive from Thorncliffe in the other direction are the Shops of Don Mills, probably busier than the Danforth and skewing more waspy and Jewish_niko
- if this idiot was politicized or radicalized in any way that's where he'd go first._niko
- but you'd have to be a deranged lunatic and a complete moron to join or think you're part of ISIS in the first place so you never know._niko
- that's all true. I'm just commenting the the media ignoring the elephant in the room. they'll bend over backwards to find other linksGnash
- i.e. there's zero evidence that the attack was linked to gender, yet here is a Toronto Star story: https://pbs.twimg.co…Gnash
- you know that they're looking for anything, anything,, that would tie him to men, maleness, incel, etcGnash
- yeah true, i'm seeing the phrase toxic masculinity being thrown around more and more_niko
- ^ yup. in city council yesterday, Kristyn Wong-Tam, said that "we have to talk about masculinity...when we try to curb violence" in reference to the shootingGnash
- Imagine any other demographic being talked about as inherently violent.i_monk
- https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
- monospaced3
https://www.theroot.com/californ…
Police shot him 20 times, while in his own yard, because they thought his phone was a gun.
- ffs, when will this end?Ramanisky2
- Clark allegedly turned toward them and began advancing toward them “while holding an object which was extended in front of him.”dbloc
- this is so fuckedcolin_s
- sac town!
it was a white iphone. be careful if you own one too. looks just like a gun.sarahfailin - Why is it hat whenever this happens, which is often, they claim he was advancing toward them threatening? EVERY TIME.monospaced
- If a person thinks all black people carry guns, he/she probably shouldn't be hired as a police officer.instrmntl
- There’s no fucking way that this man was decided to turn around and threaten the armed police who were chasing him with guns.monospaced
- Both of the officers involved in the shooting were wearing body cameras, and there is additional audio and video footage from the sheriff’s helicopter, officialdbloc
- officials said. Police said that material is being prepared to be released to the public.dbloc
- prepared = censoredmonospaced
- prediction: audio and video will be lost or mangled or unintelligiblemonospaced
- Fax_Benson5
- reminds me of the Mr Motivator sketchmugwart
- BAN CLOTHES!moldero
- never mind muricuns are fat as shitmoldero
- Bann kids! So tired of them!pango
- dress to impress Metagraffiti video copycatoey
- now you know why i wear baggy pantsoey
- Now you know why I don't wear baggy pants. "I'm not the suspicious person on your radio!"pango
- Ramanisky23
- it's missing guns don't kill people wackjobs_niko
- its a neverending spiral. Sadly. And it will go on forever. Guns are too incrustated into American culture.Bennn
- #ShitholeUSAGuyFawkes
- #ShitHoleReplitardsutopian
- it not just the guns its the psychology. Taking away guns only does so much. Its more of a reason of why does this insanity continue.mugwart
- Cool mug, let America do a beta military weapon grade ban and see if deaths go down, hmmm i have a feeling they may dofadein11
- Bennn6
A teen in Canada would have a hard time buying an AR-15 if he wanted to do something like this. But Americans want to keep the right to buy semi-automatic war weapons... to protect themselves.
FFS how many time a US citizen has protected himself with a semi-automatic weapon VS how many time someone made a mass shooting with a semin-automatic weapon? ...
asking the question is answering the question.
- Their thinking just make no sense at allBennn
- The thinking is that the government is taking their guns, not keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people.eryx
- i'm glad one of my friend got denied gun license twice. not that he has an anger issue, but he's an idiot who shouldn't have guns.pango
- he did get it the time tho...pango
- *thirdpango
