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Last post: 1 year ago | Thread started: May 22, 12, 5:40 p.m.

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  • CanHasQBN

    I do some freelance for an agency. They want an estimate for coming up with name ideas for future clients.

    Do I charge my usual design fee, or does this require a separate fee? I feel like it should be priced lower, as it involves being creative, but doesn't require any technical skills.

    I do not know who or how big the clients will be, so I can't estimate based on that.

    Thoughts appreciated.

    May 22, 12, 5:40 p.m. – Permalink
  • waterhouse

    Did you come up with that handle?

    • No. A cheeseburger-loving feline whispered it into my ear.CanHasQBN
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    Dog-earMay 22, 12, 6:31 p.m. – Permalink
  • ukit2

    Why priced lower? Coming up with a good name is really hard.

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    Dog-earMay 22, 12, 6:33 p.m. – Permalink
  • 2002

    I would double the price for naming.

    Method Brand
    Alliteration Coca-Cola
    Oxymoron Krispy Kreme
    Combination Walkman
    Tautology Crown Royal
    Theronym Mustang
    Mimetics Google
    Eponym Trump Tower
    Description Cinnamon Toast Crunch
    Synecdoche Staples
    Poetics USA Today
    Metonymy Starbucks
    Allusion London Fog
    Haplology Land O'Lakes
    Clipping Fed Ex
    Morphological borrowing Nikon
    Omission RAZR
    Acronym adaptation BMW
    Acronym KFC
    Founder's name Ferrari
    Classical roots Pentium
    Arbitrary Apple
    Reduplication Spic and Span

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    Dog-earMay 22, 12, 7:28 p.m. – Permalink
  • omg

    What kind of budget will they pay for each name? Research, presentation, etc...

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    Dog-earMay 22, 12, 8:19 p.m. – Permalink
  • bulletfactory

    being creative is being creative; technical know-how involved or not.
    I have seen CDs, ECDs, etc that have zero tech skills, but have an aptitude for branding, naming, etc.

    Are you perceiving a lower value for this work?

    Your perceived value ≠ actual value for client

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    Dog-earMay 22, 12, 8:26 p.m. – Permalink
  • i_monk

    There are two approaches as I see it:

    1) in your freelance work, are you paid to move the mouse around, or to come up with a reason for the mouse to move? They want your creative juices, not a product.

    2) How much work do you need to do? That's the main point. If they want 5-10 names (not including variations), that's 5-10 times the amount of work, which may mean researching, analyzing trends, checking trademarks, etc, depending on what you're given to work from.

    Which can you get away with?

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    Dog-earMay 22, 12, 9:15 p.m. – Permalink
  • animatedgif

    You charge them per letter, OBVIOUSLY.

    pffft amateur hour on QBN as per usual.

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    Dog-earMay 23, 12, 5:24 a.m. – Permalink
  • fadein11

    I always struggle with this

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    Dog-earMay 23, 12, 5:27 a.m. – Permalink
  • gramme

    Creating is creating is creating. Names are valuable. Creating the right one is very hard work. Don't think about the amount of time it takes, because for all you know it could take somewhere between 30 minutes and 30 days. (It'll most likely take somewhere between 20 and 50 hours of work, but that totally depends on the problem, the creator, and the client).

    • thanks. i'll continue with an hourly rate then.CanHasQBN
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    Dog-earMay 23, 12, 8:42 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    I've swore off of naming exercises. Never again. You can't pay me enough to put myself through that torture.

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    Dog-earMay 23, 12, 8:44 a.m. – Permalink
  • voiceof

    You also need to factor in the time it's going to take to look into possible copyright infringement. You will need to research whether or not these names have negative connotations in other countries that company may expand into. You will need to write rationale for each of the names to allow the client to better understand your thinking and in turn sell the client on it.

    It will probably be more than just emailing them a list of cool sounding names.

    • yup. i think i'll let them know that i will do all of this stuff to justify my rate.CanHasQBN
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    Dog-earMay 23, 12, 9:36 a.m. – Permalink
  • voiceof

    Also a note from the thrivent rebrand:
    "I’ve long wondered why all the new companies I read about seem to have ‘made-up’ names. Now I know why, firsthand! In the difficult and intensive process of finding a new name for our merged organization, we found an outstanding one – but only after we discovered that more than 90% of the nouns in the English language are already taken, and the other ten percent are virtually unusable. That’s why you and I read about companies named Lucent, Accenture and Dynegy... and now Thrivent Financial for Lutherans.”

    • Yeah, I'm one that leans toward made-up words rather than real ones. It's gotta be unique and memorable.CanHasQBN
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    Dog-earMay 23, 12, 9:38 a.m. – Permalink

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