influence or ripoff? 6262 Responses

Last post: 1 month ago | Thread started: Nov 28, 11, 3:31 p.m.

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• identity

  One of my best friends, illustrator Erik Jones, does some amazing work. Was on ffffound.com tonight and saw a new piece of his - except it WASN'T his. It was done by a woman named Charmaine Olivia. She's not only taken his style, but his subjects too:

  Erik Jones work:
  

  

  
  

  

  
  http://theirison.deviantart.com/…

  Charmaine Olivia's work:
  http://www.charmaineolivia.com/p…
  http://www.charmaineolivia.com/p…
  http://www.charmaineolivia.com/p…

  There's a ton more too.
  Here are their sites:
  Erik Jones - theirison.com
  Charmaine Olivia - http://www.charmaineolivia.com/

  Nov 28, 11, 3:31 p.m. – Permalink

• identity

  Erik Jones:
  

  

  Charmaine Olivia:
  

  

  
  

  

  
  

  

  • I think I like the quality of her work better than your friend's.– Melanie1/2

    me too– Josev2/2

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:32 p.m. – Permalink

• idiots

  Who cares?
  Shut up.
  Move on.

  Neither are original in any way.

  • *ahem– monospaced

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:35 p.m. – Permalink

• identity

  I do; and would hope you would too.
  no, you pithy cunt.
  moving on with exposing this shit.

  Nothing is new - everything is repurposed - yada yada yada. This is a hack blatantly stealing from a good friend of mine who happens to be to nice of a guy to do this for himself. Just trying to raise awareness.

  • Why should I care?– fredddddd

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:40 p.m. – Permalink

• Miguex

  I didn't click on all the links you posted, but looking at the photos you posted, I can't seem to find any similarity other than the fact that they are all paintings of women.

  • I agree– sadpanda

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:45 p.m. – Permalink

• omg

  If anything, both were influenced by the Native American Indians who have already been ripped off by the white man. So tell them both to shut the fuck up!

  P.S. - If a real pirate were to come by, he'd probably stab everyone with his sword because no one steals from a pirate. Especially people named Erik and Oliva.

  • lol– ukit21/3

    hahahahaha– Miguex2/3

    So true. I'm sick of this cultural appropriation.– jacklalane3/3

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:45 p.m. – Permalink

• idiots

  I realize you may have sand in your vagina, but visually, there is no similarity unless you are shit at posting links.

  pirates, not created by your friend
  native american headdresses, not created by your friend
  lame painting of sexualized women, not invented by your friend.

  in all honesty, which i know you didn't come here for both Native American pieces look like generic shit you can buy all over the southwest

  so what address do the tribes send to to complain to your hack friend?

  what address should the pirate bay send too because IMO they originated the pirate ship look, not the actual fucking pirate ships that existed long before this shit art...

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:45 p.m. – Permalink

• goldieboy

  Influenced, not so much rip. Both talented.

  • not even influenced.. this is not even remotely similar..– e-pill

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:46 p.m. – Permalink

• idiots

  Let me put it this way, even though your mommies told you you were special, you're not. the fact that another human being can independently create visually similar artwork speaks volumes of the artists and their lack of individual creativity.

  • man you're being a cunt– inteliboy

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:48 p.m. – Permalink

• monospaced

  calm the fuck down

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:48 p.m. – Permalink

• identity

  sorry - one of those mondays.
  good points, all.
  my apologies for the name calling.
  carry on gentlemen.

  • White hair piece is a rip, others not so– goldieboy

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:50 p.m. – Permalink

• mg33

  I can't believe I didn't even realize I am sitting here looking at half a titty at work.

  • 3 of them– idiots1/3

    that's 1 and a half whole titties!– bulletfactory2/3

    Prude– fredddddd3/3

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:50 p.m. – Permalink

• DRIFTMONKEY

  This idea was stolen from Time Bandits. I'm calling the police.
  

  

  • http://www.sweatpant…– flashbender

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:51 p.m. – Permalink

• Continuity

  Well, the choice of subject matter is obviously eyebrow-raising, but the styles ... not so much. I'd be hesitant to call rip on this one.

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:51 p.m. – Permalink

• pango

  Ummm..... i don't know... hard to say.
  

  

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 3:58 p.m. – Permalink

• identity

  totally - point taken guys.

  i guess what struck me was the subjects and style consistent with both. Not the first to paint naked women or women with headdresses or boats, etc. Just a stunning lack of differentiation in the totality of subject matter offered on her part and the consistent style usage. Saw it on ffffound - wasn't over-reacting - just sticking up for a friend that doesn't get half the publicity the woman does when it's clear (at least to me) that she keeps going back to the proverbial well of his work.

  • you are a fucking idiot. your senses of what you believe is real is so beyond ridiculous.– e-pill

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 4:03 p.m. – Permalink

• omg

  I heard someone was ripping off...

  

  • come out an play– idiots1/3

    *and– idiots2/3

    < GET THAT SHIT RIGHT IDIOT!!– moldero3/3

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 4:07 p.m. – Permalink

• meffid

  422 'Like' Erik Jones
  13,446 'Like' Charmaine Olivia

  ...if this is anything to go by.

  • record scratch...– idiots1/2

    +1– dMullins2/2

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 5:29 p.m. – Permalink

• Miguex

  maybe just post 2 images (one from each) that makes you think one of them is ripping the other?

  • < double this– lambsy

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 5:36 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit2

  How could anyone think this was a "rip?"

  The best you can say is that it's a vague similarity based on the subject matter.

  By this standard, every painting of a deer or a buffalo is a rip of the guy who first scrawled one on the wall of a cave.

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 5:40 p.m. – Permalink

• wordssssss

  You are kidding right?
  Plus, her work is a ton better in my opinion.

  

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  Dog-earNov 28, 11, 5:53 p.m. – Permalink