RIP Mobile Flash
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- comicsans0
Awesome! the second best thing they could have done. Now they just need the courage of their convictions and cancel Flash outright. Flash was a reaction to the browser wars of times gone past, it is ugly, inefficient, insecure and obsolete (which is probably why Apple so rightly despised it). Now it is a crutch for people who can't be bothered to learn up to date tools.
- "it is ugly, inefficient, insecure and obsolete"
DO YOU WRITE FOR VOGUE???georgesIII - obsolete? what the most ubiqitous plugin there is - are you stupid?fadein11
- "it is ugly, inefficient, insecure and obsolete"
- animatedgif0
"I'm not entirely convinced Adobe will abandon it's mobile Flash plugin technology altogether either. Maybe they're just waiting for mobile hardware and batteries to get better"
Why waste extra power in the future running a bad engine to get something a different engine can do today?
- Because that extra engine can't do everything the other engine can. Same idea behind plugin technology on desktops.fyoucher1
- Do we need to do the things it can't do on mobile?animatedgif
- deathboy0
yea and get rid of all animated banners and other animation stuff thats flash
- instrmntl0
Occupy Adobe!
- caseyz0
Flash will never die but I'm thinking it will evolve into more of a local environment language for apps (ie AIR)etc, rather than a browser plugin. Its a great language and platform for developing, its just not ready for the modern web where mass-consumption and speed reigns supreme. Flashy things use to be cool, now, people could care less, subtlety is more sophisticated and accomplished with more versatile scripts. Flash will/should always be their as a tool, but I truthfully won't miss it on the web.
Just look at social websites and se what people preffer:
myspace- was a Flash-wonderland
facebook- you aren't even allowed animated gifs- There's a Facebook API for Flashfyoucher1
- Farmvilleanimatedgif
- Never played Farmville, Although my grandma does, yippie for her I guess.caseyz
- You can definitely put Flash on Facebook. I've worked on projects that have it.CyBrainX
- I've put many flash graphics within facebook as well, just never seen them on a profile pagecaseyz
- ernexbcn0
@caseyz one of Facebook's biggest games is Farmville and correct me if I'm wrong that's a Flash app inside Facebook.
- ukit20
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversat…
Adobe is all about enabling designers and developers to create the most expressive content possible, regardless of platform or technology. For more than a decade, Flash has enabled the richest content to be created and deployed on the web by reaching beyond what browsers could do. It has repeatedly served as a blueprint for standardizing new technologies in HTML. Over the past two years, we’ve delivered Flash Player for mobile browsers and brought the full expressiveness of the web to many mobile devices.
However, HTML5 is now universally supported on major mobile devices, in some cases exclusively. This makes HTML5 the best solution for creating and deploying content in the browser across mobile platforms. We are excited about this, and will continue our work with key players in the HTML community, including Google, Apple, Microsoft and RIM, to drive HTML5 innovation they can use to advance their mobile browsers.
Our future work with Flash on mobile devices will be focused on enabling Flash developers to package native apps with Adobe AIR for all the major app stores. We will no longer continue to develop Flash Player in the browser to work with new mobile device configurations (chipset, browser, OS version, etc.) following the upcoming release of Flash Player 11.1 for Android and BlackBerry PlayBook. We will of course continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates for existing device configurations. We will also allow our source code licensees to continue working on and release their own implementations.
- SteveZissou0
Not so much "Jobs was right", more "Jobs played dirty and won"...
Personally I'm happy enough if it's HTML5 from here...but people have been saying "Flash is dead" for the 10 years I've been working with it, and I'm getting more of this type of work than ever...
- if Flash was necessary for a great mobile experience the iPhone would have died, no?monospaced
- Yeah, I don't think existing Flash stuff was well suited to mobile, so wasn't a deal beaker for the iPhone, just seems clear it was a threat to the App store, as so many of the apps could've been done with Flash, online.SteveZissou
- ..that Flash was a threat to the App store as most of the Apps could've been onlineSteveZissou
- Of course it was about the app store, but the iPhone would be better with flash than without.CyBrainX
- vaxorcist0
There are tons of shitty ads out there, and tons of shitty flash out there.. and some other technologywill replace it someday....
why cares.....
there are tons of shitty threads about flash is dead or flash forever on QBN.... and some other bees-to-honey thread topic will replace this topic someday.....
someday....
- ukit20
Meh...stop blaming Jobs and look at Adobe. It's really an amazing 180 turn considering how aggressively they were pushing mobile Flash just half a year ago.
I remember when iPad came out and Adobe was actively spreading reasons you should not use HTML5, including this completely made up idea that HTML5 would not be ready for another decade, which a bunch of people repeated on here.
Now, HTML5 is "universally supported on major mobile devices" and "the best solution for creating and deploying content." LOL. How can you really take anything Adobe says seriously on the technology front from now on?
I just hope this means they will be creating better software for HTML5, because that is what has been lacking so far.
- They fired 10% of their workforce... just goes to show how FUCKED that organisation has becomeanimatedgif
- I mean fucked in terms of management, not that they'll be dead soonanimatedgif
- I totally agree, ukitmonospaced
- chossy0
comicsans this is a post you made a year or so ago about colour cycling in HTML5.... what am I looking at here?
- twokids0
personally i cannot wait for flash to die. it has always been a terrible animation program with lots of kludgy ways to do things - however because of its stature I was forced to use it for years and years. I think animation belongs to the motion design toolsets and coding can be done by coders. better that way.
- chossy0
Also doesn't flash and air export for the mobile platform anyway. So Flash as a tool has adapted quite well to the changing environment so it is quite an up to date technology in that respect just the flash player is no longer going forward. However as a tool to create it is still able to perform as well as it always has done?
- vaxorcist0
I agree in a way..... the kludge-if-ication of flash over time was huge, then the de-kludge-ing attempts were odd, resulting in this oddbal hybrid.....
we began to call the scripting language "ActionScrapped" at one gig during the AS2 to AS3 transition, as we had to throw out so much code....
trying to be all things to different developer mindsets and animator mindsets is a recipe for oddball-ness....
I miss the simplicity of early flash....
but I don't miss trying to make animations in java applets(!)
- fadein110
I think this whole site should now be put in the 1st world problems thread. few people speak sense (boz and georgeIII and a few others are exceptions) but the general trend is fools like monospaced (fanboy) not seeing the bigger picture. This site just shows how the web has become branded and powered by capatilism. Happy web $.0 everyone. fuck web 2.0, welcome to the wired controlled web xxx
- fuck these endless team battles... pc vs mac, html5 vs flash, ios vs android - tedious unproductive bullshitfadein11
- get on with ya work and stop wasting ya time talking bullshitfadein11
- I'm not a fanboy, you jerk.monospaced
- ernexbcn0
LOL at "few people speak sense (boz)..."