Expression Engine pros/cons
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- vaxorcist0
Drupan rhymes with RuPaul.....
This is significant because everything in drupal seemed to me to be doing everything in its own way .... strangely everything normal at first glance seemed rather different once you took a closer look... kind of like a cms where everything is in drag....
- Unfortunately, Drupan does not rhyme with RuPaul... :)ETM
- you mean drupal is good? i tried it and thought it wasn't a centralized piece of software, i much prefer WP.i_was
- some stuff works here but not there in the same environment, i hate that.i_was
- I wasn't posing an opinion, only mocking the spelling error.ETM
- yes... hazards of typing on an android device... but yes, I dislike DruPaul because it seems familiar but, uh, different in a weird way....vaxorcist
- ETM0
What I am liking about EE is there are often numerous ways to achieve a goal. Not 'hacks', not necessarily right and wrong, just flexibility.
So far I have done everything I need without any 3rd party add-ons. I know some might make a task easier, but I like sticking to the base install where possible to avoid any issues down the line when updating etc.
- you're beginning to convince me.... but does EE have similar plug-in upgrade surprises as WP?vaxorcist
- From what I understand, far less, as it's a much tighter, focused community.ETM
- I just in general prefer to avoid plugins/add-ons unless required.ETM
- If interested, this is the general recommended book to start out:
http://mijingo.com/p…ETM - Or the screencasts:
http://mijingo.com/p…ETM
- rootlock0
Matrix and Structure are the go to add-ons so when a new version comes out they are already on it, just update the add-on with the new ee version. Also, have no issues with multiple add ons not working together, ie wordpress hell.
- ETM0
I've looked at both briefly as that is that seems the consensus. How do they integrate with the back-end functionality? The overviews leave some to be desired in fully explaining it. If every ee license didn't cost a fee, I'd setup a dev site just to install and play with. Maybe I should just anyway.
- Personal dev licenses are cheaper (I think, got mine a couple of years ago)comicsans
- rootlock0
structure allows clients to see their site in the backend as a sitemap, also allows for super easy generation of auto building navigations.
Matrix allows you to build repeaters inside the document edit panel instead of having to build entries in channels for things like slider images and such.
- ETM0
Does Structure replace the whole template_group/template structure in the UI, or simply provide an option / addition?
- ETM0
Anyone here do any EE consulting? When I am at a certain point with this project, I would like an audit review of how things have been approached. Suggestions for process improvements etc.
- ETM0
FWIW, Ellislab recently brought back it's free, non-commercial license (core) for EE if anyone was curious to check it out:
- qoob0
Is there really any reason to use EE over WP these days?
- ETM0
Apples and oranges really.
EE is often more flexible and scales better IMO. Seems easier to solve odd or unexpected client requests in EE than in WP. Plugin community is really tight and well integrated.
EE is generally more secure and stable (handled/handles Obama's site). Also no themes, just straight forward templates and tags.
First thing with EE though is not trying to approach it like WP, from how content is stored to how URLs are formed. There is no forced hierarchy of what content is attached to the presentation layer, you dictate whatever you want in the template layer.
WP of course has a much larger community. That is a double-edged sword though... from trying to stand out professionally to weeding through the crap themes and plugins.
One of my biggest beefs with EE is the lack of a date hierarchy option for URLS (2012/02/) etc. out of the box (with exception to using the limited 'archive' tag pair), despite EE starting out as a blog platform like WP.
- Apples and oranges? They are both PHP based CMS aimed at small to medium sized sites. Apples to apples, I'd say:)qoob
- Really, you have experience with both? Some things they handle very differently.ETM
- There are hundreds of PHP-based CMS's that are no way a direct comparison. PHP is a tool.ETM
- As well, EE is aimed at larger sites. Would be a waste on a small site.That's why they created MojoMotor.ETM
- ESKEMA0
me loves concrete5
concrete5.org
- ETM0
I tried C5. It's pretty. Nice UI for both admin and user. Plugins were a bit limited. It's good for smaller sites, but the back-end would be too hard to navigate with the amount of content I need for some sites. Any CMS that organizes backend content by the nav hierachy becomes cumbersome with large sites. Impossible for some.
After trying a lot of CMS's over the years I'm still settled on CMS Made Simple for small / med. site and recently EE for med. large sites. Both having a similar approach to templating that I like.
But nowadays there are so many good options.
- ESKEMA0
I only do small sites, so yes, there is probably scalability issues with C5. It evolved a lot from last year, so if you haven't tried it in a while, I recommend that you do. But hey, if you already have an option that you like, sometimes it's just better to stick with that.
- ETM0
To bump a 5 year old thread...
Been using the latest ExpressionEngine v3 for nearly the year it's been out and it's been great. Better updating, better CP, great under the hood changes for add-on development. Security is still top notch.
https://ellislab.com/expressione…
They lost ground with how long they took to update EE2, and Craft is still consuming some of it's market share, but they're certainly on the right track again.