China: design a “national priority.”
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- detritus0
I think it's unfair to demand an iconic piece of singularly Chinese design, be it product or graphic, given that the economy and culture by which we derive and judge such works is barely a decade old over there.
Besides which, what hubris to put things in such singularly favourable terms and what utter balderdash to state that the US was somehow magically immediately a superpower! What of the 300 years gestation before, finally, surpassing the might of Mother England's imperium? China was an international superpower before the US and much of Europe was even a twinkle in imagination's eye, if you so passively dismiss Grand Time's depth, you're surely dooming your descendants an idiot's perspective.
I'm sure some of the KnownKnown Yankee Pseuds in here are simply trolling, but by golly how keenly your words speak of a form of Empire crumbling, proclaimed by ignorance and fear, shouted loud and proud.
The new world order is multi polar, and the better for it—the last 150 years of uni/bi/poly-polar world view were an aberation, which should be best gotten rid of with all the humility and empathy we can muster.
We have a lot to learn and hopefully, so do they.
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- little_kev0
@fresnobob, you seem to have it down here. Original/lateral thought is not taught or encouraged in chinese education, in the main. This lack of free-thinking is deep-rooted and as one might look around for inspiration it might seem absent to the extent it seems only fabled. As support I offer this; link's 2yrs old but still pertinent, imho.
This lack of an ability to think out side the blah blah is both common and comfy to the establishment. China traditionally adopts and replicates, it's might is in cheap labour. Yeah they gave us gunpowder but it's been quieter on the inventions front the last few centuries
- orpkoobcam20
a designer sat in china won't be taking the job of a designer sat in london working with local clients. don't sweat it.
i see a return to local in the future. we can't sustain a global market economy due to environmental issues.
- bored2death0
I think good design takes independent thought. Something I'm not convinced exists there.
- ukit0
I do agree with what fresnobob says to an extent...where is the one piece of iconic, original Chinese design you can point to? Notice that even the article doesn't mention anything.
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- GeorgesII0
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- lowimpakt0
yea, IP is a big issue.
In design we are seeing the growth of open source and open design http://opendesignnow.org/ but in other areas of tech (inc. pharma etc) IP is still a massive issue and driver of competition.
The free flow of ideas is the biggest challenge. As detritus says, they are excelling in contemporary art but some of their artists are getting jailed for political dialogue.
This is an emerging issue but it makes me think about how European / US design can remain special.
- dobre0
Didn't everything we got now originate from China if not Rome, Greek, Gulf & India? Design has always been major in Chinese life & existence. And with this whole 'national priority' being implemented sure China will be the leader again. If that means we will be getting top quality 20$ replacement for Macbook & Hermes birkin then we should all be speaking Mandarin :)
- fresnobob0
@lowimpakt - Yeah, they did develop industry rather quickly, but thats because it was already invented by the rest of the world, they just had to pick up on it! Compare the risse of China to the rise of the US. The US was formed and almost immediately became an economic and cultural power. China, on the other hand has had plenty of time to develop, but instead chose to wallow in things like totalitarian political systems which totally fucked them and now they are struggling to catch up.
Like, for example, I noticed on the Beijing Design Week website there is a lecture series about how intellectual property rights and copyrights need to be strictly enforced and its not good to share ideas. Uh, woah dude! That is like totally opposite the rest of the creative thinking in the world today. China has so much infringement of that sort going on that they seemingly have to hate sharing ideas before they can again begin to love sharing ideas. Thats a big barrier, to flip ideologies that many times.
Anyways, I think China needs to first have a society that permits and encourages the free exchange of ideas before they will be able to become the cultural powerhouse being implied. They may have the money, but their ideas are not going to be spread unless they are freely permitted to spread.
- popfodders0
yeah and also MADE like shit
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- utopian0
More fake Apple Stores found in China...
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- DrBombay0
FoxxConn is replacing suicidal workers with robots.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/bu…Bootleg Ikea stores
http://www.reuters.com/article/2…
- lowimpakt0
@freshnob - good point but just consider how fast China leapfrogged the West in other areas in technology (and most importantly the cultural adoption of tech), infrastructure, general economic growth etc.
e.g. they developed their economies in decades to the level that took us centuries
I'm also not seeing this from a US/Europe perspective. The new economies are leaving us behind.
- detritus0
More is more, so it's all good.
The same pifflingly-considered criticisms about copying western tech and culture seen in this thread were levelled at Japan 30 years ago and you'd have to be fairly ignorant or deluded to accuse them of exhibiting a lack of creativity and originality.
There's plenty of capacity for design development in the world and I welcome China's increasing input and output—if the art world is anything to go by, they have a lot to offer.
- utopian0
Now if they would only stopping spamming QBN...
with their cheap shit, made by their child slave labor workforce!
- fresnobob0
I don't know, I think I'm gonna try and call bullshit on what that dude is saying. Not that I don't think the masses of people and manufacturing are going to be important in the future, but what that dudes is saying about the freshness and originality of Chinese design is total nonsense. Whats really going on is that China finally discovered modernism and are desperately trying to catch up to the rest of the world, who have been using such ideas for over 100 years now.
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- just look at all the creative names they have come up with for Chinese restaurants... Happy Chinese Design Palace
- johnny_wobble0
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